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Ignition tumbler experience

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Ignition tumbler experience

Postby IVIUSTANG » 04 Jan 2010, 21:49

Hey guys,

I will update you on a chain of events that lead to this post.

I had my car at a trusted shop to replace one of the drive axles, when I tried to drive it home, my keyfob did not work at all and when I stuck my key in the ignition I couldn't turn it. I took the key out and saw the metal piece that is supposed to cover the opening when the key is out was stuck open. I jiggled it a bit and that fixed my remote and key problem. A few times following this, I turned the key to start it and nothing happened, my dash lights etc came on but no starter turnover, repeated tried eventually got it working every time.

A few days later, I was buying a suit on my way out of town and got back to my car and WHAMMO my ignition turned completely around, I could turn my key many times around 360 degrees, obviously no start. I had it towed home and the driver said that he has seen this with Volvos before and got it working again in my driveway by inserting and removing the key repeatedly until the ignition set properly back into place. He said it needed a new ignition tumbler.

I have had a lot of difficulty finding the exact right part as well as directions for doing this on my 1998 S70, I have also heard I may need to change my keys or at a minimum reprogram something along the way. Any experience with this sad ailment? What is the internal cause of this and will his insert/remove method perpetually make this work? When I take the ignition apart, any other cheap parts prone to failure I should also replace or clean?

Thanks,

- Jesse
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Re: Ignition tumbler experience

Postby JFO » 04 Jan 2010, 22:33

This thread may help....
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=18227


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Re: Ignition tumbler experience

Postby FireFox31 » 04 Jan 2010, 23:14

I also described a work around for the problem in this thread. My failing ignition cylinder is starting to get so bad that even this trick won't work.
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Re: Ignition tumbler experience

Postby IVIUSTANG » 05 Jan 2010, 00:27

I see so much conflicting information, I just want to order the part and be done with it. My 1998 does NOT require the coded key/lock combo correct? Also I have read that "you can get the lock programmed for your key," does this mean that I don't have to get a different key and can use my originals? Please give me links and part #'s, mine is 1998; this is a very annoying part to source I have found with a lack of good info I thought. I have read 7 or 8 other threads throughout the internet and am still bewildered.

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Re: Ignition tumbler experience

Postby BEJinFbk » 05 Jan 2010, 00:36

IVIUSTANG wrote:I see so much conflicting information, I just want to order the part and be done with it. My 1998 does NOT require the coded key/lock combo correct? Also I have read that "you can get the lock programmed for your key," does this mean that I don't have to get a different key and can use my originals? Please give me links and part #'s, mine is 1998; this is a very annoying part to source I have found with a lack of good info I thought. I have read 7 or 8 other threads throughout the internet and am still bewildered.

- Jesse

With a '98, the ignition switch is pretty straight forward.
( No, you don't have to worry about a transponder in the key.)
Get a hold of a Good Volvo parts counter with your VIN and
they should be able to get you fixed up.

I'd check with DW and Boston Volvo.

Darryl Waltrip Volvo
(800) 689-0021
Ask for Jamie or Don

I don't have a number for Boston Volvo,
but somebody here should throw in soon.
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Re: Ignition tumbler experience

Postby IVIUSTANG » 06 Jan 2010, 05:07

A sad thing when the Volvo repair shop in Regina here is terrible over the phone and even worse face to face. 20 car queue for work and way understaffed and over worked. They have always been zero help to me. To bad I don't live two hours north in the Volvo Capital of Saskatchewan. They have an amazing aftermarket Volvo shop as well as a proper helpful dealership. Was really hoping for a part number so I could fore go more phone calls. As it stands now, my car is still drivable as my ignition has locked backed into proper position mostly.

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Re: Ignition tumbler experience

Postby OEMVolvoParts » 06 Jan 2010, 16:55

I'll try to offer some information. You can choose whether or not you want to buy a coded lock or a non coded lock. Coded means it will fit your original key and will take up to 10 days to receive out of Germany. Non coded means we order overnight directly from Volvo with a new column lock and key to fit that column lock. That means that now your car will have two keys, one for the new ignition and one for the doors. This is your choice.

We sell both options and can purchased online, just click our page at the top and email us. Coded sells for $281 we sell for $224, non coded is $262 and we sell for $209.
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Re: Ignition tumbler experience

Postby BEJinFbk » 06 Jan 2010, 18:02

MyVolvoPartsOnline wrote:I'll try to offer some information. You can choose whether or not you want to buy a coded lock or a non coded lock. Coded means it will fit your original key and will take up to 10 days to receive out of Germany. Non coded means we order overnight directly from Volvo with a new column lock and key to fit that column lock. That means that now your car will have two keys, one for the new ignition and one for the doors. This is your choice.

We sell both options and can purchased online, just click our page at the top and email us. Coded sells for $281 we sell for $224, non coded is $262 and we sell for $209.


Great Info! One more piece of the puzzle explained. With the plain jane 98's vs the 99-00's
with the "coded" keys with transponders in their heads, it does get confusing.
Thanks for the clarification on "coded" keys from the locksmithing side of things.

Remember when cars were simple? Sigh... :roll:
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Re: Ignition tumbler experience

Postby IVIUSTANG » 06 Jan 2010, 20:25

Is this the right part number for my a car for a coded setup so I don't have to have multiple keys? When I order it how do I make sure it gets coded correctly? I assume if there are any electronic connectors to hook up on the cylinder for the transponder that on my car being the 1998 I don't hook them up is this correct? In short, the ONLY reason for a non transponder 1998 vehicle to order a coded cylinder is so I don't have to have multiple keys, please verify my questions and you have an order.

Thanks alot,

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Re: Ignition tumbler experience

Postby IVIUSTANG » 06 Jan 2010, 20:49

I'm sorry I forgot to add the part # in my previous post: 8626325

Wouldn't let me edit it.

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Re: Ignition tumbler experience

Postby IVIUSTANG » 06 Jan 2010, 22:43

Sadly www.myvolvopartsonline.com does not allow me to sign up to their website as they only have the shipping/billing option set to allow American customers only. A shame.

- Jesse
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Re: Ignition tumbler experience

Postby OEMVolvoParts » 07 Jan 2010, 15:54

I just got back from talking to the Internet manager and he said he is willing to ship the part to the great white north :).

It might not say on our page, but we will ship to you. 8626325 is the correct part number for a coded ignition lock on the 1998 S/V70. We order the key off your vin number. Please contact again.
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Re: Ignition tumbler experience

Postby mike12 » 25 Feb 2010, 16:05

really customer services are quiet good on volvo parts website
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Re: Ignition tumbler experience

Postby Bill S70 T5 » 09 Mar 2010, 03:42

I had the exact same thing on my 98 V70R. you can buy the replacement lock assy and the keys will work on your doors because they match the lock to your VIN.
The work of changing it however is a little more complex, if you don't mind spending the time with a cold chisel and a hammer it shouldnt be a prob. I decided I just didn't have a whole day (my calc on how long I'd end up doing the job) so gave it to my local "Stealership" but, sarcasm aside, they did a great job in around 4 hrs.

I decided to just go ahead and get it done after a similar situation where I'm sitting in a parking lot trying to go home and the key just spins. Yep it does come back when it feels like it but I couldn't afford to be stuck.
Cost me $260 which was a lot but in the long run was worth doing just for the reliability.

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