lifter tick

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lifter tick

Postby phils94850 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:57 am

I've noticed after starting and engine cold and after a couple minutes I'm getting a noticeable lifters ticking. It doesn't do it on initial start when cold, they start after a couple minutes.

After I drive for about 10 or 15 min. Then its quiet and doesn't come back. I jus changed the oil yesterday and used 5w30 and it seems like it made the ticking worse.

Any ideas on what I can do to help with the ticking and is it hurting anything? I've read the ticking can last up to 15min. And its normal. The engine has 176k miles.
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Re: lifter tick

Postby meteg » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:41 am

hello,

for an engine that has 176,000 miles it will be wiser to use semi synthetic 10w-40 oil. this is recommended by the oil manufacturers too.. the full synthetic will be too thin for a moderately worn engine and the worn valve terrain.. especially for the engines which have hydraulic lifters like our volvos have the valves get oil starved because the full synthetic doesnt fill the worn parts with oil.. the oil has to be thicker so it will fill the worn parts..

but the engine valves will tick if the the car is not used for more than 10 days.. and that is normal.but it shouldnt tick after it reaches operating temperature..

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Re: lifter tick

Postby phils94850 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:26 am

When I changed the oil yesterday I used regular non synthetic 5w30 oil. I figured a full synthetic wouldn't be good on a older engine. With temps getting down in the single digits where I live what's the heaviest weight oil I can use ? I've also read about people using lucas oil treatment ?
I'm getting the ticking after the car sits for example all night.
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Re: lifter tick

Postby meteg » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:46 am

the best thing to do is to switch to semi sythetic oil like 10w-40.this will cure your problem.. when you use oil additives it will ruin the engine oils chemical structure.. the oils which are used in the market already have some additives in them.. and using another additive is not recommended by the manufacturers..

other members of the forum will soon see the post and make more comments..

by the way I forgot to mention, make sure the oil level in your engine is at the maximum mark if it is not bring it to the max line..

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Re: lifter tick

Postby phils94850 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:18 am

Meteg.. Thanks for the advice ill give it a try
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Re: lifter tick

Postby JRL » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:57 pm

Try giving your engine a SEAFOAM treatment
Costs you all of 10 bucks.
Also could be your O-rings in the oil pan (common issues with high mile Volvos)
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Re: lifter tick

Postby jblackburn » Sun Jan 10, 2010 4:12 pm

+1 on the Seafoam treatment. You'll have to change your oil after anyway.

The oil pickup rings in the oil pan deteriorate with age, and cause the oil pump to pick up less oil at idle, and cause the tick you describe. I'd try other things before tearing into that though.

If you're not leaking oil visibly anywhere, making the switch to synthetic is one of the best things you can do for it. I switched to Mobil-1 10W-30 from dino oil 30,000 miles ago with no problems, and my car has never been happier.
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Re: lifter tick

Postby Ozark Lee » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:45 pm

What brand of oil filter did you use?

Anything other than OEM Volvo, Mahle, or Mann will cause severe lifter noise on startup. I have heard that K&N and the premium NAPA filters are OK but I have never used them and thus I cannot vouch for them. Fram filters are the orange cans of death - I did try a Fram filter - once.

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Re: lifter tick

Postby renns » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:06 am

-1 on SeaFoam - sorry guys, but I feel compelled to provide this link. The noise, which appeared after SeaFoam treatment, continues to this day, and was confirmed by an experienced Volvo mechanic to be stuck lifter(s). It's been about 4k miles since the SF treatment. I've tried various oil types and weights, and also changed out the oil sump o-rings. Nothing's left but swapping out the lifters, and I just couldn't be bothered on an old high-mileage car. It runs great, and the mechanic said the ticking wasn't of a nature that required immediate replacement. He indicated the car would likely run for years in that condition.
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Re: lifter tick

Postby 850 Turbo1 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:15 am

renns wrote:-1 on SeaFoam - sorry guys, but I feel compelled to provide this link. The noise, which appeared after SeaFoam treatment, continues to this day, and was confirmed by an experienced Volvo mechanic to be stuck lifter(s). It's been about 4k miles since the SF treatment. I've tried various oil types and weights, and also changed out the oil sump o-rings. Nothing's left but swapping out the lifters, and I just couldn't be bothered on an old high-mileage car. It runs great, and the mechanic said the ticking wasn't of a nature that required immediate replacement. He indicated the car would likely run for years in that condition.


-1 on sea-foam as-well ...there are many people who have had the seafoam method do more damage than repair and clean...lots of stuff on the forums if you search..GODLUCK!
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