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1999 V70 Stalling Problem

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1999 V70 Stalling Problem

Postby AdamReader » 08 Feb 2011, 00:39

I got a call from my wife this morning reporting that she went out to our car, started it and it promptly lost power and died.

Here are the details:

Year: 1999
Model: Base V70, Automatic
Country: USA

Recent Repair History:

About three weeks ago we removed the ETM and did a cleaning. The car had been shuddering. The cleaning seemed to fix the issues.

Today's issue:

The car has sufficient power to power all interior systems and the headlamps.

I attempted to start the car. It cranked, but didn't turn over. I checked the ETM again and a visual inspection showed that the throttle plate doesn't close all the way and seal the throat (is this standard?).

I decided to try and jump the car to see if the problem was electrical. I hooked up the cable and turned the ignition. Still didn't turn over. I floored the acceleration pedal and tried the ignition again. After a few attempts the car finally turned over, but I had to maintain greater that 3000 RPMs to keep the car from stalling. As soon as I'd let up on the gas, the RPMs would drop and the car would stall out. Even trying to give it more gas after letting up wouldn't let the car recover.

Before I have the car towed to my mechanic, I'm curious if anyone has had similar problems or can hazard a diagnosis.

I know it could be any number of items (ETM, Starter at top of list), and appreciate your insights.
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Re: 1999 V70 Stalling Problem

Postby Ozark Lee » 08 Feb 2011, 02:47

Welcome to MVS,

Your post is somewhat perplexing and I think it may be terminology. The terms cranked and tuning over are what has me confused. Does the starter engage and the car actually crank or does the starter do nothing when the key is in position III.

No crank always means no start. Crank with no start is a "horse of a different color".

Please clarify whether or not the starter is doing anything at all.

Have you had the codes read? Codes always help us guessers here.

The more information we have the better we can try to help you.

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Re: 1999 V70 Stalling Problem

Postby AdamReader » 08 Feb 2011, 04:15

Thanks Lee. I just got back in from working on the car.

The car was cranking before, but it is now doing nothing in position III. I turn the key to position III and there's only a click and the warning lights display. No cranking. So the starter is now doing nothing.

I pulled the plugs and checked them. They're fine and gapped correctly.

I also removed the injection rail and re-attached.

I do not have codes right now and wish I could supply them.

I know this info is spartan. Any help is appreciated.
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Re: 1999 V70 Stalling Problem

Postby jblackburn » 08 Feb 2011, 04:53

Move the shifter to Neutral and give it a go. Sometimes the PNP switch will act up, and the car won't start if it doesn't think it's in P or N.

In addition, give all doors, hood, and trunk a good slam, then lock and unlock the car from the drivers door with the key 3 times. This will reset the alarm system if it's angry at you.

As soon as I'd let up on the gas, the RPMs would drop and the car would stall out. Even trying to give it more gas after letting up wouldn't let the car recover.

That actually sounds like you may have a dead mass airflow sensor. Try unplugging it and cranking the car (if the starter will even turn)
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Re: 1999 V70 Stalling Problem

Postby AdamReader » 08 Feb 2011, 18:41

Thanks for the help so far.

The saga continues.

Last night I pulled the plugs, cleaned and re-gapped. I let it sit overnight and came out this morning to jump the car. I hooked up the cables and turned the ignition. The car cranked and started right away. I'm guessing it may have been a flooding issue with the plugs. I let the car run for 15 minutes and then turned it off. I told my wife to try it again at 10:30.

My wife went out at 10:30 to start the car and it fired up without problem. She let it run for about a minute then cut the engine.

About an hour later she went out to start up the car. In position III, the interior lights come on, but the car would not crank. I'm starting to guess that this is a power problem, so either alternator or battery are shot.

I'm going to jump the car this evening when I get home and see if the car will crank and fire up.

I reflected on when we last used the car before it died yesterday as well. I had moved the car out of the garage on Sunday, starting it up for a minute, moving it back 10 yards and then cutting the engine. The next morning it wouldn't start up. Now a similar thing has occurred where the car was started for a short period and when we went back to start it again, it wouldn't crank and fire. I'm hazarding a guess that on the short run times, the battery is getting the car started, but if we only let it run for a couple minutes, the alternator isn't recharging the battery and thus the power is sapped for the next attempt. The fact that I let it run for 15 minutes this morning after getting it started let the battery charge for when my wife tried successfully at 10:30. She only let it run for a short period and therefore, the car didn't start when she tried an hour later.

I'm corresponding with my mechanic as well and if I can jump the car tonight, I'll take it to the shop. Any thoughts on what may be going on before I take it in?

Thanks!
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Re: 1999 V70 Stalling Problem

Postby jblackburn » 08 Feb 2011, 18:54

I reflected on when we last used the car before it died yesterday as well. I had moved the car out of the garage on Sunday, starting it up for a minute, moving it back 10 yards and then cutting the engine.

These engines hate that. You basically flooded the cylinders with gasoline, so they couldn't build up compression again to start the car again. Let it run for at least 30-45 seconds before shutting the motor down again.

I'm thinking your battery may just be old and in need of replacement. It's probably barely holding on to a charge - mine did the same last summer. Auto parts stores will test the battery and the charging system for you for free (and even jump you if you can't get it to start again).
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