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2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

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2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby jefe » 16 Jul 2012, 07:15

....all the debates aside....I have read tons of forums of people saying don't ever drain + fill or flush the transmission fluid on these transmissions and I've read all the forums full of people that believe in a drain + fill every other oil change or so...

...now to my wife's Volvo.....we bought about a year and a half ago, a 2001 V40, with about 60,000 some odd miles on it....in that year and a half, my wife has put about 30k miles on it.....but recently we got a CEL indicating an issue with the gear position sensor (aka the pnp switch).....and getting it checked out, the techs said it looked like the transmission fluid might need a change.

....so that got me on to the forums researching. I've checked the ATF fluid regularly and levels have always been good. It's not a bright red color, but far from brown as well, and the smell is fine...

...but I ultimately decided to do a drain + fill...a few quarts at a time over a few thousand miles of driving.....run to the store, and grab some fluid and a clear container to measure how much I was draining out....come back to the house, jack the car up and get underneath and quickly run into 2 problems.

I had not seen this issue on any of the DIY threads I read on draining....but I noticed right off the bat, our V40 has a rather large metal bracket that runs underneath the engine and holds one of the engine mounts. This metal bracket runs directly next to the bolt I need to take out to drain the ATF....so I can't get a socket on it and I don't have a wrench to fit the bolt (24mm I think??).

So it got me thinking with such awful placement of the drain hole, maybe Volvo really doesn't want me to drain the ATF. Even the VADIS software I have says the ATF should only be changed if certain TCM CEL codes are being tripped or if the car is being used a taxi.

With the bracket there, it makes it difficult for access and even if/when I do get the bolt out, it's going to be a huge mess with the ATF fluid spurtin out onto that bracket and splattering and running everywhere which could pose a problem for being able to collect and measure the fluid being drained so i can put the same amount back in.

Don't see a lot of posts happening in this forum but curious if any other V40 owners have done this procedure with this bracket in the way.

Thanks.
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Re: 2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby zulu-v40 » 16 Jul 2012, 13:24

The drain and fill can be done with relative ease, and probably should be done with the number of miles on your car. You can check the dipstick to inspect the condition of the ATF fluid. It will probably be brown. I've done several drain and fills on my V40. You need a regular, flat 24mm wrench. It also helps to have a small funnel to wedge between the transfer case and the bracket you mentioned. The funnel will direct the fluid as it exits the case. If you don't use a funnel, the ATF fluid will run along the bracket and make a real mess. Make sure you have a new drain plug washer on hand (977751). If the drain plug is beat up, make sure you have a new one ready (30713956). Personally, I use Mobil ATF 3309 (see avlube.com).
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Re: 2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby jefe » 16 Jul 2012, 17:43

Yea, I can see a mess happening real quick if not done carefully.

Does it come shooting out with force at first? I'm trying to wrap my head around having a funnel plus a wrench in that tiny space....but I guess I just gotta do it and learn.

Also, how many quarts does it typically drain from just pulling that plug?

I picked up Toyota T IV from my local Carquest...from what I have read, it's also an alternative to the Volvo brand.
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Re: 2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby jefe » 16 Jul 2012, 17:48

Also, those part #'s you listed...where do you typically order from?
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Re: 2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby zulu-v40 » 16 Jul 2012, 19:06

Yes, it will be messy and tight. Sounds like you've got the right ATF fluid. I want to say mine typically drains 3.5 quarts. The DIY on this forum recommends using two milk jugs (one for clean fluid/one for dirty fluid), pre-marked with permanent marker to make sure you refill the same amount you've drained. When you're marking the jugs, I'd recommend marking at smaller intervals as you reach the 3 and 4 quart mark. As for ordering parts, I typically use FCP if they have the part. You can reference diagrams and purchase OEM parts at volvopartswebstore.com too.
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Re: 2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby jefe » 16 Jul 2012, 19:56

Right on. Thanks.
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Re: 2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby jefe » 29 Jul 2012, 19:14

Thought I'd post up my how to after doing a drain and fill yesterday on our 01 V40. I was mostly worried about the potential mess this was going to make since the ATF drain bolt is very close to the engine support cross member that runs right next to it.

I think the bolt takes a 24mm wrench but I just used an adjustable one.

Here's what I needed to ge the job done:
-- adjustable wrench
-- (2) 5 quart buckets
-- replacement crush washer for the drain bolt
-- make shift funnel for draining
-- funnel for refilling
-- magnet pickup tool


I picked up a couple 5 quart buckets from the hardware store....one for the dirty ATF drained out and one for clean ATF put back in. Label them so you can keep them straight for future ATF drain and fills. It also helps to get a lid for the clean bucket so you can keep it clean in between drain and fills.

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In order to avoid the mess, I got crafty and made a make shift funnel out of an old paint roller pan. On the left of the photo is what I cut out from another pan.

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Putting one of the 5 quart buckets on blocks of wood, I positioned it under the drain bolt after initially loosening it with the wrench. I then wedged the make shift funnel in between the drain bolt and the cross member. Holding the make shift funnel with my left hand to make sure it didn't slip or fall, I then used my pick up magnet tool with my right hand to slowly turn by turn remove the drain bolt.

Suprisingly this worked perfectly and made zero mess. ATF flowed perfectly into the bucket. It drained about 3.5 quarts.

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Then use the clean bucket to match the same amount taken out to be put back in. You can see how dirty the old ATF fluid was. Then use the real funnel to refill the ATF through the ATF dipstick tube.

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That's it. Hope this helps someone out in the future.
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Re: 2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby tjts1 » 30 Jul 2012, 08:55

Thank you for the writeup with pics. I'm going to drain the ATF on a 2002 S40 with 140k miles on the clock. I doubt the ATF has ever been changed. I'm using Castrol Transmax import multi vehicle which meets the JWS 3309 specification.

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Re: 2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby tjts1 » 07 Aug 2012, 02:36

Heres a few more tricks to make the drain and refill easier. When you open the 24mm drain plug, back it out slowly until its starts to drip, then slowly go another quarter turn until it becomes a continuous stream straight down. This prevents the ATF from shooting out and making a mess without the need for a funnel. It took about 1 hour to drain the 3.5 qt from the pan this way. Really nast smelling burnt oil.
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Once the tramission has finished draining with the drain plug still removed and the trans in park, turn on the engine for about 10 seconds. This causes the transmission to pump more oil into the pan which slowly drains out. I did this 3 times about 5 minutes apart and by the third one very little came out. The transmission didn't get damaged since theres no load on it and everything inside is still oily. I managed to drain 4.5 qt of the total 8 qt.
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Re installed the drain plug, poured 3 qt into the dipstick hole, started the engine and then added 1.5 additional quarts. Oil level was spot on so I took it for a spin and it shifts much smoother especially 1-2 shift. In a week or two I'm going to repeat this to dillute the old ATF further.
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Re: 2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby zulu-v40 » 12 Aug 2012, 02:34

Jefe, nice trick w/ the paint roller pan! Just so you know, the drain plug on the transmission is definitely 24mm. I bought a separate box end wrench just to do the job.
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Re: 2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby jefe » 12 Aug 2012, 20:02

Good to know. Thanks.
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Re: 2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby MadeInJapan » 23 Sep 2012, 09:47

Thanks for the write-up guys- the 2000 V40 I have is just over 100K miles and in need of this- I suppose it too will take the Castrol 3309 equivalent fluid.

Edit: I was wrong about the type of fluid- through 2000, the auto transmission is a 4 speed and takes the older Dextron, from 2001, the transmission is a 5 speed and does indeed take the JWS-3309 equivalent.
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Re: 2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby DealgaO » 21 Oct 2012, 12:00

Thanks for this. When I bought my 2000 V40 T4 it had 111,567 miles on the clock. I bought it from a friend who had spent about 18 months rebuilding it and all aspects of the car had been renewed or repaired. The only job he had not done was to change the AT Fluid. I was advised by an independent mechanic who specializes in Volvo and Saab that at that mileage the ATF should be changed. He did it for me for GB£60 (US$83) and that included the fluid and labour. The fluid that came out was dark brown and smelled bad. I immediately noticed a marked improvement in performance - so the debate as the whether or not to is nailed for me - check it regularly and change it after 75,000 miles.
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Re: 2001 V40 Automatic Transmission Fluid Drain...

Postby iamn8 » 27 Dec 2012, 00:23

Bump for a great info in this thread.

I'm looking at options for a JWS-330 equivalent for a 2003 V40. Mobil 3309 and Toyota Type Type T-IV seems to be reasonably price and regularly available. Anyone have experience with either or another recommendation.
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