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2002 Volvo S60 2.4non turbo) won't start after cold weather

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2002 Volvo S60 2.4non turbo) won't start after cold weather

Postby ATLstranded » 26 Jan 2008, 19:33

Hi guys I want to introduce myself and say I'm new to the forum and I am glad to know it exist. Last week I awoke to leave the house and my 2002 Volvo S60 will not start. I have determined that it is not the starter, alternator, or the battery. It has been sitting in the garage for 7 days and I am completely frustrated. I don't think it is getting fuel. It will attempt to start and then shut off again. I hear a buzzing sound under the engine. The dealership by my house says it could be a fuel relay issue. How to I fix that on a 2002 S-60? Any guesses on what else it could be?
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Postby MadeInJapan » 26 Jan 2008, 20:10

Yes, I'm thinking fuel pump relay too but it could be a number of issues....even the battery (although you don't think this is it....if it is low, but not real low you could get a no-start condition). There is a valve at the left side of your fuel rail (looking at the car with hood up, from the front). It is much like a air valve for a tire. Have a rag ready and push it in to see if you're getting fuel pressure there. Keep the key in position II while doing this. If you lose pressure, then it definitely is fuel pressure (relay, fuel filter or even pump) issue. The fuel pump relay is located under the sound proofing panel on the driver's side...I believe the panel insert on your car has a listing of the locations and description of each relay. Sorry, but I'm just reading off information from VADIS so I can't be more specific as I don't own this car.

Btw, I'm moving this to the appropriate section of the forum as you posted in the '93-'2000 section.
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Postby JRL » 26 Jan 2008, 20:33

Why do you think it's not your battery?
If it's an original battery it's already past its usefull life, (4 years).
or...you may have just left a light on but the easy way to tell is jump it (the correct way, on the + post in the engine compartment)
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2002 Volvo S60 2.4non turbo) won't start after cold weather

Postby ATLstranded » 26 Jan 2008, 21:01

Right I tried a brand new battery earlier this week and the same thing accured. I just went to the Volvo dealership and they sold me a relay but they couldn't tell me if it was the right one. I just looked at the fuse diagram and I think I located the relay. How can I tell if it is bad. Also I am looking for the fuel railing and this is probably first time I've ever examined underneath my hood. I can't seem to locate it.
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Postby MadeInJapan » 26 Jan 2008, 21:16

I thought it would be on the left side (like our V70) but apparently on your car it's on the right. It's the nipple circled on the diagram below:
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Postby MadeInJapan » 26 Jan 2008, 21:25

Things might be more complicated in regards to the fuel pump on your car than I thought...evidently your engine has to turn over for a signal to be sent to pump fuel....Anyway, check this below:
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So....if your battery isn't the issue (and it still could be, especially if it drained somehow), and fuel delivery is the problem, I would take it to the dealer. Anything after '01 has become more complicated with the CAN Bus network that these cars use to communicate different signal functioning.

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2002 Volvo S60 2.4non turbo) won't start after cold weather

Postby ATLstranded » 26 Jan 2008, 21:27

Yeah that is exactly what it is. I can hear the fuel pump buzzing so I know that it is working. When I turned the key to the 2nd position, I can hear a buzzing underneath the hood almost like loud beeping noise. Secondly you were right when I took the cap off of the fuel line and stuck a small object into the line a burst of gas shot out on the rag and that was it. I assume that the gas should have been free flowing. Now I just need to locate the fuel pump relay and switch it out or check the resisters correct?
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Postby MadeInJapan » 26 Jan 2008, 21:32

It is certainly worth a try, but read my previous post...apparently if the speed sensor is not engaged (fly wheel turning), your fuel pump won't be turned on, so that's that....you'll only get a squirt....not sure how to trouble shoot that one....unless (see below):

There is a write-up on here for fixing your own fuel pump relay as well as how to jumper the base connector without the relay on earlier cars (850-70 series) but not sure if yours is the same relay or not. Take a search in the repair database section and when you find your relay, compare it with what is posted there. If yours is the same, then it might be worth a try to problem shoot things further.

Of course, if the relay is not the same, I wouldn't dare try to jumper the connectors as you could do some real damage.


UM....once again CHECK YOUR BATTERY....without any pull on it, it should read between 13~14 Volts, not just 12.
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My 2002 Volvo S-60 won't start after temp dropped to freezin

Postby ATLstranded » 28 Jan 2008, 18:03

Ok ANYONE! I need more help. I'm just about ready to give in. A certified Volvo repair shop near my house is now saying that you won't find a fuel relay on late model Volvo's. They said that it would be part of the sensors on a chip on the computer. He said messing with my car myself could result in some serious damage to my car. Is that true or are they trying to get me to bring my car to them for servicing and charge me an arm and a leg?
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Postby sony2000 » 28 Jan 2008, 20:26

Two questions. Is the motor turning over but not firing? The horn sound you hear under the hood, could that be from the horn on the alarm system (firewall)?
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Still standed 2002 s-60 won't start

Postby ATLstranded » 28 Jan 2008, 21:12

Yes it I have a stable charge on my battery and I try to crank the car and it does nothing. But when I try to jump start the car with another car it acts as if it wants to start. The beeping noise I'm hearing is supposedly the fuel relay going bad. Well at least that is what has been determined by all the guys helping me trouble shoot it. I just called a tow to start getting some estimates, I thinking it will be my best bet. The shop said I could really mess things up if I weren't careful.
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Postby MadeInJapan » 28 Jan 2008, 22:32

They tell you this because they want you to do the "Volvo Dealer" thing, which is to hand them your hard earned money. However, if you can't figure this thing out and we can't help you, this might be your best bet. From reading VADIS, there is a listing for the fuel pump relay in the relay box under the front/driver's dash but it doesn't specify exact location or number.
Good luck and let us know what you find out.

Edit: I'm scratching my head on the "no relay" info someone had given you. I do find this one: http://www.maximumautoparts.com/VO_Fuel ... items.html
But neither FCP (foreigncarpartsonline.com) or eeuroparts.com carry one. Sometimes places like maximumautoparts.com do make mistakes too....hmmm.
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Postby sony2000 » 29 Jan 2008, 00:11

Hit the bendix on top of the starter motor with a piece of steel or wooden rod and hammer. Tap the big red wire attached to the bendix with a piece of wood it may have a dirty connection that should be cleaned). Cable connections at the battery could be cleaned. Not necessarily in this order, but any cleaning of elec. contacts only with battery disconnected.
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2002 Volvo S60 2.4non turbo) won't start after cold weather

Postby ATLstranded » 30 Jan 2008, 23:00

Ok I may not be stranded too much longer. I had my Volvo picked up by a towing service this morning and transfered to a service center accross the street from my office ( for conveinence only and a company disscount) Anyway after 4 hours of trying to diag the problem. The show determined that the fail-start might just be do to my car's internal security system and faulty kill switch. Now the car is being towed to Volvo in the morning. Good News! the shop didn't charge me for the 4 hours of labor. Bad News! It cost me already $200 in towing fees for the 2 transfers. I keep you guys updated. I have to admit this is all very emabarrising. I tricked my car out a year ago thinking that I had a fool-proof ride. Now to have it just sitting there doing nothing suggest to my friends that I hooked up a lemon,( so commented 1 itdot friend). Thanks for the support in this matter!
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