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2002 Volvo S60 2.4non turbo) won't start after cold weather

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2002 Volvo S60 2.4non turbo) won't start after cold weather

Postby ATLstranded » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:33 pm

Hi guys I want to introduce myself and say I'm new to the forum and I am glad to know it exist. Last week I awoke to leave the house and my 2002 Volvo S60 will not start. I have determined that it is not the starter, alternator, or the battery. It has been sitting in the garage for 7 days and I am completely frustrated. I don't think it is getting fuel. It will attempt to start and then shut off again. I hear a buzzing sound under the engine. The dealership by my house says it could be a fuel relay issue. How to I fix that on a 2002 S-60? Any guesses on what else it could be?

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Postby MadeInJapan » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:10 pm

Yes, I'm thinking fuel pump relay too but it could be a number of issues....even the battery (although you don't think this is it....if it is low, but not real low you could get a no-start condition). There is a valve at the left side of your fuel rail (looking at the car with hood up, from the front). It is much like a air valve for a tire. Have a rag ready and push it in to see if you're getting fuel pressure there. Keep the key in position II while doing this. If you lose pressure, then it definitely is fuel pressure (relay, fuel filter or even pump) issue. The fuel pump relay is located under the sound proofing panel on the driver's side...I believe the panel insert on your car has a listing of the locations and description of each relay. Sorry, but I'm just reading off information from VADIS so I can't be more specific as I don't own this car.

Btw, I'm moving this to the appropriate section of the forum as you posted in the '93-'2000 section.
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Postby JRL » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:33 pm

Why do you think it's not your battery?
If it's an original battery it's already past its usefull life, (4 years).
or...you may have just left a light on but the easy way to tell is jump it (the correct way, on the + post in the engine compartment)
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2002 Volvo S60 2.4non turbo) won't start after cold weather

Postby ATLstranded » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:01 pm

Right I tried a brand new battery earlier this week and the same thing accured. I just went to the Volvo dealership and they sold me a relay but they couldn't tell me if it was the right one. I just looked at the fuse diagram and I think I located the relay. How can I tell if it is bad. Also I am looking for the fuel railing and this is probably first time I've ever examined underneath my hood. I can't seem to locate it.

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Postby MadeInJapan » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:16 pm

I thought it would be on the left side (like our V70) but apparently on your car it's on the right. It's the nipple circled on the diagram below:
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Postby MadeInJapan » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:25 pm

Things might be more complicated in regards to the fuel pump on your car than I thought...evidently your engine has to turn over for a signal to be sent to pump fuel....Anyway, check this below:
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So....if your battery isn't the issue (and it still could be, especially if it drained somehow), and fuel delivery is the problem, I would take it to the dealer. Anything after '01 has become more complicated with the CAN Bus network that these cars use to communicate different signal functioning.

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2002 Volvo S60 2.4non turbo) won't start after cold weather

Postby ATLstranded » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:27 pm

Yeah that is exactly what it is. I can hear the fuel pump buzzing so I know that it is working. When I turned the key to the 2nd position, I can hear a buzzing underneath the hood almost like loud beeping noise. Secondly you were right when I took the cap off of the fuel line and stuck a small object into the line a burst of gas shot out on the rag and that was it. I assume that the gas should have been free flowing. Now I just need to locate the fuel pump relay and switch it out or check the resisters correct?

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Postby MadeInJapan » Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:32 pm

It is certainly worth a try, but read my previous post...apparently if the speed sensor is not engaged (fly wheel turning), your fuel pump won't be turned on, so that's that....you'll only get a squirt....not sure how to trouble shoot that one....unless (see below):

There is a write-up on here for fixing your own fuel pump relay as well as how to jumper the base connector without the relay on earlier cars (850-70 series) but not sure if yours is the same relay or not. Take a search in the repair database section and when you find your relay, compare it with what is posted there. If yours is the same, then it might be worth a try to problem shoot things further.

Of course, if the relay is not the same, I wouldn't dare try to jumper the connectors as you could do some real damage.


UM....once again CHECK YOUR BATTERY....without any pull on it, it should read between 13~14 Volts, not just 12.
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My 2002 Volvo S-60 won't start after temp dropped to freezin

Postby ATLstranded » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:03 pm

Ok ANYONE! I need more help. I'm just about ready to give in. A certified Volvo repair shop near my house is now saying that you won't find a fuel relay on late model Volvo's. They said that it would be part of the sensors on a chip on the computer. He said messing with my car myself could result in some serious damage to my car. Is that true or are they trying to get me to bring my car to them for servicing and charge me an arm and a leg?

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Postby sony2000 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 8:26 pm

Two questions. Is the motor turning over but not firing? The horn sound you hear under the hood, could that be from the horn on the alarm system (firewall)?
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