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Best Year for an XC70?

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Best Year for an XC70?

Postby Volvo4251 » Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:24 pm

Hi all,

Just curious, is there a best year for the V70 XC/ XC70? I know the 01-04's are the same, and 05-07 there was a cosmetic facelift (which looks MUCH better) but aside from that, is there a mechanically "golden" year for these cars?
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Re: Best Year for an XC70?

Postby otis44 » Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:41 pm

04-07 would be the best years, although I don't think the 03 models were all that problematic there just aren't that many on the road. Stay clear of the 01 & 02 models. I like the 05's on for the cosmetic advantages but wouldn't have a problem with an 04 if the price and condition were right.

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Re: Best Year for an XC70?

Postby JRL » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:20 am

06 and 07 because they have "instant traction" 2005s do not
(Different Haldex programming)
There's nothing wrong with a 2005, everything else is the same so you can't go wrong with a good example of any of those 3 years
2004 is also the same mechanically as a 2005, just the interior is different plus a couple of other minor trim pieces
2000 V70R Black, 129,000 miles (Wife's R, getting up there, she won't sell it)!
2007 XC70 White/Oak over 100K perfect. New DD, sold the 06
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Re: Best Year for an XC70?

Postby Volvo4251 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:29 pm

Advice well taken- why do you suggest to stay away from the 01-02 models? They seem to be the most common, I never see any 03's online.
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Re: Best Year for an XC70?

Postby JRL » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:20 pm

Do some readin up on 01s and 02s
You don't see many 03 because there aren't any.
2003 was a VERY short model year, October thru April

2004s came out in late April, early May and were a very LONG run
2000 V70R Black, 129,000 miles (Wife's R, getting up there, she won't sell it)!
2007 XC70 White/Oak over 100K perfect. New DD, sold the 06
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Re: Best Year for an XC70?

Postby tboothe33 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 3:55 pm

This post scares me.. I WAS lookin at on 02 XC70 with 94,000 miles on it. Owner is asking $8500 for it. Should I just turn away and forget it? When I bought my 99 XC70 it has 150,000 miles on it. It was my first Volvo. I know have over 230,000 on it. We have had to fix some things, but through it all the engine is strong and quiet. I was not afraid of the 99, why should I be so scared of the 02? I'd love to buy JRL's 07, but it is just a hair out of my price range....

Owner has no records, bought from a dealer, has only had it a year.. maybe that should be my clue.... But my 99 had the same history.
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Re: Best Year for an XC70?

Postby Volvo4251 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:17 am

tboothe33,

I've been speculatively looking at the P2 V70/XC70. My potential price range is right around yours. I have heard that the 01-02 transmissions have real problems, however the cars I've seen all have, give or take, about 100-125K miles on them and look to be in very good shape. It seems to be that most people fear the Tiptronic transmissions (unless I'm wrong) that come in the T5 V70 and standard on the XC70. I'm not exactly sure what even goes wrong on these transmissions or what signs to look for.
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Re: Best Year for an XC70?

Postby otis44 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:52 am

Volvo4251 wrote:tboothe33,

I've been speculatively looking at the P2 V70/XC70. My potential price range is right around yours. I have heard that the 01-02 transmissions have real problems, however the cars I've seen all have, give or take, about 100-125K miles on them and look to be in very good shape. It seems to be that most people fear the Tiptronic transmissions (unless I'm wrong) that come in the T5 V70 and standard on the XC70. I'm not exactly sure what even goes wrong on these transmissions or what signs to look for.



What happened to the 01 & 02 model transmissions was they were equipped with Volvo's stop neutral software when new. This basically caused the car to shift into neutral when say stopping at a red light. I think the intention was to lower emissions and save fuel. The transmission itself were/are the same Aisin Warner transmissions used in other Volvo's and other makes as well with no problem (minus the stop neutral feature). The stop neutral function if not removed through software by the dealer at some point during the tranny's life (preferably early) has and can cause internal damage to the transmission. Clunking, hard shifting, slipping, and overall failure are symptoms of this condition.

I know there are probably many people who have these model cars and like them very much and there are people who have tons of miles on them and may not have done anything to their cars service wise. But, any forum on the web related to these cars has tons and tons of threads regarding early P2 model S60's and V70's with automatic transmission problems.

The next issue is the cost of repair/replacement. If you buy a used transmission from a boneyard you take a chance not getting something any better than you had (newer models aren't compatible) and rebuilds reportedly run in the 3500-5k range if you can even get anyone competent to do it. The early P2 cars also tend to have more annoyance type issues (ie; electrical) than some of the later models. I think this can be attributed to the cars now having some age and the typical work out the bugs type issues many manufacturers have when a new model or platform is introduced.

This in a nutshell is why many here and on various other forums and enthusiast sites will recommend to stay away from these models.


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