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I think the evaporator has packed it in!!

Postby tailor » 26 Jul 2008, 19:48

List of faults:
1) swishing water sound when the fan is on high
2)water coming into the passenger side when turning left
3)fan bearing starting to groan when turning left
4)sucked out about 2 litres of water from the fan housing, see 3rd pic.
Now other than these problems..... the A/c works and keeps us cool.
No fault codes either!
What do you learned folks think?
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In spite of my cabin air filter you can see junk at the bottom of the fins .
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The above pictures are taken through the blower motor housing. The orientation is correct.
Just very damp inside, all the water had been removed with vacuum pump, see below.
We have had an extraordinary amount of wet weather here in Toronto, I had put it down to a leak through the windshield :o and the fact that I park on an incline.
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Vacuum pump/brake bleeder
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Any idea if I can drive around with the blower motor out and should the A/C cycle? It will be Monday before I can get my hands on some parts.
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Postby chuckcintron » 26 Jul 2008, 20:03

You sure your climate box bottom drain port wasn't plugged? You shouldn't get anywhere that much water sitting in there...

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Postby MadeInJapan » 26 Jul 2008, 20:05

I agree...you have a major clog. If your Evap isn't gone yet, it will be soon as it will basically rust out from all of that water. Btw, it won't cool and it will keep loosing its gas if the evap. is truly gone.
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Postby tailor » 26 Jul 2008, 20:17

You sure your climate box bottom drain port wasn't plugged


And just where is this drain port you refer too!
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Postby MadeInJapan » 26 Jul 2008, 21:09

tailor wrote:
You sure your climate box bottom drain port wasn't plugged


And just where is this drain port you refer too!


well, so now- that's the problem...it's at the edge of the pan that the evaporator sits in. There is a drain hose that meanders from there to the bottom of the car but it's very very hard to get to from below the car- and you know that to get to the evaporator and pan you basically have to take the dash out.

Maybe someone else has a suggestion for unclogging everything....drano???
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Postby chuckcintron » 27 Jul 2008, 05:18

I think it'll have to be gotten to from under the car and cleared with a wire rod or some similar implement. I think you'd have to pour way too much household drain cleaner into the unit before you'd have any chance if it getting to that drain. It'd have to seep past the evaporator, as well.

See the photo on the left side of page 18 in my evap writeup (linked in my sig)...you can see where the evap sits...the drain is on the bottom, behind it.

If it's that clogged up though, then the evap itself probably looks like the one in that photo...and you know what I'm going to say next...

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Postby JRL » 27 Jul 2008, 07:53

This is what can happen when the cabin filter isn't changed regularly
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Postby tailor » 27 Jul 2008, 07:54

Thanks a lot guys....Jrl would have already said it !
I will give it a go and see what the best angle of attack is.
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Postby vegasjetskier » 27 Jul 2008, 07:58

Find the drain hole in the bottom of the car and suck out the clog with your shop vac.

You can drive the car with the blower motor out, but shut off the a/c or the evaporator will ice up. You won't get any cooling effect from it with the motor out anyway.
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Postby holler1 » 27 Jul 2008, 08:41

In my 98 V70 AWD I can get to the AC drain hose from inside the car, just to the passenger side of the front of the center console. Just pry up or aside the liners and look for a white hose coming from the AC to about maybe a foot in front of the gearshift etc. The hose pulls loose from the floor drain and you can squeeze it or probe it a bit to clean it out. I cleaned mine a couple of years ago and it fixed the problem with water swishing around, slow fan, etc. I have photos somewhere, but don't have time this morning to find them. I'll look again tonight. This drain is very hard to get to from outside the car at least on my AWD.
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Postby MadeInJapan » 27 Jul 2008, 08:46

holler1, yes- please find those photos and post them. They would be most helpful. It would be a great place to look for the dye if you put it in your A/C system too...to see if it is leaking from the evaporator. So far, I have not found a good way to see the dye if the evap. is truly leaking.
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Postby Ozark Lee » 27 Jul 2008, 10:59

Holler1 is spot on.

Remove the lower dash panel and pull back the carpet around the console. Remove the stiffener behind the carpet and then look for a rubber tube that goes to a nipple on the floorboard. It is centered just below the heater core.

Remove the tube from the nipple and clean it out with a piece of wire or, my favorite, weed eater string. Don't get anywhere near the evaporator with drain cleaner.

Be prepared to quickly plug the hose back onto the nipple as you will have a fair amount of water coming out of the tube once you clear the clog.

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Postby tailor » 27 Jul 2008, 15:16

After putzing around for about 1 1/2 hours looking for the elusive drain under the car I tried to blow the debris out of the evaporator with a compressor, got a little water and a fair amount of tree detritus.This pic shows the little bits that kept being blown about by the compressed air.
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Then somewhat frustrated with the lack of progress I came to check the site and found two posts about the inside drain. Thanks to Ozark and Holler1 :D
Well, in two shakes of a lambs tail I got another 750 ml of water out and this creature! :o
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I gave a small burst of compressed air into the drain(the bottom opening) and into the pipe(top opening), just to check it was free.
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Here is where the pipe is located,
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I had a plastic bottle handy, a stopper would have been useful as well, as
I did spill a little. :oops:
Once again thank you MIJ, Chuckcintron, Ozark and Holler1,vegasjetskier and of course JRL for your input.
Blows nice and cold and no water swish but getting the 511 error code, will have to do the damper adjustment procedure:

(511 Damper motor limit position self-adjustment not carried out )
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Postby vegasjetskier » 27 Jul 2008, 15:39

Is that a mouse or a cockroach? It looks like it has a Cheerio hat. :D
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