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850 immobilizer fun

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Re: 850 immobilizer fun

Post by misha » Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:28 pm

Sommerfeldt wrote:...Also... Dutch market only? Where were you during geography lessons? :?
- S
Here is some more evening reading for you:
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=144798

I didn't imagine that.....as you can see...that's what i'm being told...in this case about 400 series.

Read 2nd post. :wink:
Sommerfeldt wrote:...I've never seen an 850 with an immobilizer.
Keep looking,you might learn something you don't know.If you were that stubborn to learn things,you would be a Volvo guru. :wink:
Sommerfeldt wrote:...That's simply a big, fat, Serbian lie.
You're being rude and that isn't acceptable anymore,but that's your manners...or the lack of.
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'97 850 2.5 20v / fully equipped / Motronic 4.4 from the factory / upgraded with S,V,C,XC70 instrument cluster / polar white wagon
'91 Citroen XM 2.0 SI /fully equipped/mandarine red metallic
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Re: 850 immobilizer fun

Post by misha » Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:37 pm

Teddy1975 wrote:Maybe there is some language barrier here... Misha: Fully equipped is not standard. Because your car is fully equipped it came with the immobilizer, probably have an alarm LED at the windshield and so on.

The standard 850, or call it the basic 850, was delivered without all of that, but you could pay to get it put on the car when you ordered it from the dealership.
Teddy1975....i'm just trying to say that the car came like that from the factory and wasn't manufactured "by order".I know that because it was bought from a familly friend back in 2000.It is equipped with guard alarm II which have an alarm led by the windshield.

We don't have a basic trim in EU for these cars.Also GLT doesn't mean light pressure turbo in EU market,it's trim level.You have SE,GLT,GLE(those are 10 valve cars).
I know that you can "order" the car to be manufactured by your wish,but this wasn't the case.Why i wouldn't say that it isn't IF it is?It's NOT!
It came from the factory with premium package without "ordering" to be like that.Could be because it's the last production year and being a transitional year from 850 to s,v70.
It's like U.S platinum model just with normally aspirated engine instead of being a turbo.
'97 850 2.5 20v / fully equipped / Motronic 4.4 from the factory / upgraded with S,V,C,XC70 instrument cluster / polar white wagon
'91 Citroen XM 2.0 SI /fully equipped/mandarine red metallic
History of Volvos in the family:
'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
'78 244 DL
'78 244 DL
'79 244 GLE
'85 340 GLS

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Re: 850 immobilizer fun

Post by Sommerfeldt » Sun Jun 05, 2016 12:56 pm

You stopped making sense a couple of pages back, Misha, and I don't think it's even possible to understand what you might mean anymore.

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Re: 850 immobilizer fun

Post by BEJinFbk » Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:11 pm

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Re: 850 immobilizer fun

Post by Teddy1975 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:26 pm

I'm going to bow out of this discussion, it isn't really going anywhere.

Misha, let us just agree to disagree on this :)

I'm sorry for my part in side stepping this thread from the original question.
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Re: 850 immobilizer fun

Post by Logan360 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:56 pm

Well that was a somewhat interesting read :) but I know 4.4 can be bypassed immobilizer wise, so what exactly did they come in? I understand they are drop in? Or would I have to find a turbo 4.4 unit?
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Re: 850 immobilizer fun

Post by Sommerfeldt » Sun Jun 05, 2016 3:55 pm

I think BEJinFbk had a good point early on, in that it's code reading time. But (and maybe I misread you), are you using the old barrel and key, and just keeping the one that's mated to the immobilizer unit near the antenna? Could that be confusing it somehow?

In any case, codes are probably your next step. :)

- S
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Re: 850 immobilizer fun

Post by Logan360 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:03 pm

I have the 855 barrel still in,
and have been sitting the R key in it while the R antenna is plugged in, with the R ecu plugged in
and have been using a screw driver to turn the ignition switch that is usually mounted on the barrel.

So the physical barrel itself is the original one, but the other components are from the R.
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Re: 850 immobilizer fun

Post by Logan360 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:10 pm

Ok so plot twist. I know of a 2000 V70 2.0T with a shot auto Trans. How hard would it be to put the 4 speed box into the V70, or even the 850 drive train into the V70?
96 854R, 96 855T5, 97 960, 97 S90, 86 360GLT

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854 turbo, 7 360GLT, 84 corona, 92 R32 skyline, 91 TT manual mitsi GTO

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Re: 850 immobilizer fun

Post by misha » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:10 am

Sommerfeldt wrote:You stopped making sense a couple of pages back, Misha, and I don't think it's even possible to understand what you might mean anymore.

- S
:shock: :roll: :?
'97 850 2.5 20v / fully equipped / Motronic 4.4 from the factory / upgraded with S,V,C,XC70 instrument cluster / polar white wagon
'91 Citroen XM 2.0 SI /fully equipped/mandarine red metallic
History of Volvos in the family:
'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
'78 244 DL
'78 244 DL
'79 244 GLE
'85 340 GLS

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