IPD sale XeMODeX - Experts in Volvo Electronics Free shipping all USA - Experts in Brakes
I'll be performing maintenance on the server March 31. I'll try my best to make interruptions as painless as possible. Thanks for your understanding.
Did you know? 🤔
Logged in users can get email notification of topic replies Log in or register (free).
Amazon Link Buy anything with this and it helps MVS!

98 S70, N/A Control Arm (Ball Joint) installation question

Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's extremely popular car line -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, 850 R, 850 T5-R, 850 T5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

User avatar
chrafael
Posts: 96
Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:39 am
Year and Model: 1998 v70 GLT
Location: Mandeville, La.
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 1 time
United States of America
chrafael

Re: 98 S70, N/A Control Arm (Ball Joint) installation question

Post by chrafael » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:15 pm

Abscate is right. This is classic toe out problem. Safe bet your mechanic tried to string line the front and rear wheels not realizing the rear is a fraction of an inch narrower. This leads to what you see. I would be more concerned about any possible slack in the pinch bolts/spindle ears. If it wallows out too much it may pull through. At the very least recheck your torque on the bolts. It may surprise you.

User avatar
Roger_850T
MVS Moderator
Posts: 262
Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2013 11:55 am
Year and Model: 854T 1995
Location: Frederick MD
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 13 times
United States of America
Roger_850T

Re: 98 S70, N/A Control Arm (Ball Joint) installation question

Post by Roger_850T » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:59 pm

I agree...

1. Your ball joints look correct. I looked at the amount of stem protruding from the top. I am used to them being fully seated at this point though, so I'm not sure how you could have got them in any more. However, the groove in the stem will interlock with the bolt when installed, so it's either correct, or it's out 1/2" or so, which yours clearly is not, so I think you're fine.

2. It looks like a toe out problem. (I did exactly this on a 264, had to take a trip before I could get it aligned, did it by eyeball, and destroyed 2 tires in 500 miles.)

3. It also looks like you replaced a CV boot between the pictures. If you disassembled where the steering knuckle attaches to the strut, then that can also change the alignment and require a readjustment. (It depends how closely to the same spot you are able to reassemble.)

Hope this helps!
'05 XC90 V8 140k
'95 854T 310k
'02 V70 159k
'03 S80 111k (crashed)
'93 945T 217k (gone to be parted out)
'87 245 300k+ sold, still going
'84 264 Diesel, RIP at 160k
'78 242 manual everything.
'73 P1800ES, fun until the rust set in...

polskamafia mjl
Posts: 2630
Joined: Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:10 am
Year and Model: 1995 Volvo 854 T-5R
Location: Hershey, PA
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 8 times
Poland
polskamafia mjl

Re: 98 S70, N/A Control Arm (Ball Joint) installation question

Post by polskamafia mjl » Tue Aug 02, 2016 7:24 pm

chrafael wrote:Abscate is right. This is classic toe out problem.
How does toe cause that kind of wear? And if that's the case what would one expect to see from out of spec camber?
'All my money is gone and I have an old Volvo.' - Bamse's Turbo Underpants

Current: 1995 Volvo 850 T-5R Manual - Bringing it back from the brink of death
Previous: 1996 Volvo 850 GLT - Totaled

User avatar
abscate
MVS Moderator
Posts: 20458
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:54 pm
Year and Model: 99T5 ,99S70,2005V70
Location: NYC, ALBANY NY
Has thanked: 285 times
Been thanked: 898 times
Trinidad & Tobago
abscate

Re: 98 S70, N/A Control Arm (Ball Joint) installation question

Post by abscate » Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:08 pm

Too much toe tilts the wheel under power and scrubs the inside ( toe out) or inside ( toe in).

Bad camber can also cause this but it will be on one wheel, and handling will be really fubar
Empty Nester
A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
1999-V70-T5M56 2005-V70-M56 1999-S70 VW T4 BMW
Link to Maintenance record thread
Link To Volvo Glossary

User avatar
theWIFES_S70
Posts: 1141
Joined: Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:34 pm
Year and Model: 1998 S70 base
Location: Queens, New York
Has thanked: 32 times
Been thanked: 25 times
Peru
theWIFES_S70

Re: 98 S70, N/A Control Arm (Ball Joint) installation question

Post by theWIFES_S70 » Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:04 pm

Thanks for the insight guys! Glad to know I didn't do anything wrong here. Will take her to get aligned and to get some new front tires and I hope not to touch her till next summer.

Oh wait, still have to repair that rear brake cable thing... :oops:
1998 Volvo S70, N/A, 5-speed, 183K
2007 Volvo S40, 2.4i, 5-speed, 97K

User avatar
abscate
MVS Moderator
Posts: 20458
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:54 pm
Year and Model: 99T5 ,99S70,2005V70
Location: NYC, ALBANY NY
Has thanked: 285 times
Been thanked: 898 times
Trinidad & Tobago
abscate

Re: 98 S70, N/A Control Arm (Ball Joint) installation question

Post by abscate » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:29 am

Old thread alert

Torque spec is 50 Nm or 35 ft lbs per Alldata, with new hardware

I would be comfortable using old hardware this if you clean and inspect, check the diamater of the shank for wear, punch mark the nut and do the daily- weekly-monthly inspection routine...check daily for one week, then weekly for a month, then monthly for three months. At that point you can be confident the bolt is staying put.

I ran a grade 8.8 bolt on one of my ball joints this way. It had slightly excess threads so I had to make sure it cleared everything

I’ll measure my old bolt dimensions and post here. Local Volvo place would not sell me one, but you can order from LIsle and maybe FCP ?
Empty Nester
A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
1999-V70-T5M56 2005-V70-M56 1999-S70 VW T4 BMW
Link to Maintenance record thread
Link To Volvo Glossary

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post