IPD sale XeMODeX - Experts in Volvo Electronics
Did you know? 🤔
Logged in users can get email notification of topic replies Log in or register (free).
Amazon Link Buy your stuff using this and it helps MVS!

Driver Side Windshield Wiper Arm

Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's extremely popular car line -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, 850 R, 850 T5-R, 850 T5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

osmium
Posts: 208
Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:29 pm
Year and Model: 96 850 GLT
Location: Nashua, NH
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0
United States of America
osmium

Re: Driver Side Windshield Wiper Arm

Post by osmium » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:47 am

viper69 wrote:
osmium wrote:
dosbricks wrote:I know we all have to find the path to Volvo enlightenment that is right for us. But for those still wrestling with this issue, if you own or can borrow a Dremel tool, it's super easy to relieve about 1mm or less from those two nubs shown at the right of Erik's photo. The result is a totally clean wipe at zero cost.

Just went and ground those nubs down a bit with the dremel. Took off a little bit at a time, checked the coverage each time.

The DS wiper is now contacting the windshield completely over its travel.


Didn't realize how bad it had become until I drove home one night last week in heavy rain; could barely see.


-Os
What's the bit number of the Dremel part you used for grinding?

Don't know the numbers, but the ones I used looked like #1 and #3 in the photo above except they have grooves on them. The ball shaped one worked the best.

-Os


1996 850 GLT 262k miles (gone :( )

Image

1999 Honda Civic
1996 850 GLT (gone, no more Volvos :( )
2000 Buick Park Avenue
2005 Honda Odyssey
2013 Lexus ES350 (replaced Volvo 850)

viper69
Posts: 408
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 6:41 pm
Year and Model: 850GLT 1995
Location: USA
Has thanked: 44 times
Been thanked: 1 time
United States of America
viper69

Re: Driver Side Windshield Wiper Arm

Post by viper69 » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:34 pm

erikv11 wrote:Yes, the height of the gray nubs determines the angle.

I have done the grinding by leaving the arm and spring in place, just flip up the arm. It may come down to the shape of the Dremel grinding bit you have, and whether or not the bit can access all of the gray surface. Don't let your grinding wander back behind the gray nubs into the black area, or the grinding will make shiny silver surfaces that show up after the wiper arm is folded back in place. No effect on function but the black arm will have a silver spot. Ask me how I know ...
Thanks! I didn't think about the potential for silver. I presume that's annoying or causes possible reflection should silver appear.?

I don't have a Dremel grinding bit. I assume I'll need a metal bit of some type, not sure the best shape. I assume the grey nubs need to be relatively flat across their length as shown in that picture w/the red lines.

How do you know if you have ground off TOO MUCH material? What should I look for in terms of wiper performance or arm movement etc ?


Volvo 850 GLT 1995

5 Speed Manual transmission

122,500 miles and barely broken in

Previous:
'82 Volvo DL Wagon, 4 speed manual
'77 Saab 99 EMS, 4 speed manual

beigg
Posts: 691
Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:07 am
Year and Model: 850 97
Location: Est. Mi
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0
Uruguay
beigg

Re: Driver Side Windshield Wiper Arm

Post by beigg » Thu Dec 22, 2016 4:18 pm

too much can result in shorter wiper life, wiper blade "chatter", premature failure of wiper's transmission/motor.


ugh smh 850 Turbo fridge

viper69
Posts: 408
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 6:41 pm
Year and Model: 850GLT 1995
Location: USA
Has thanked: 44 times
Been thanked: 1 time
United States of America
viper69

Re: Driver Side Windshield Wiper Arm

Post by viper69 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:13 am

beigg wrote:too much can result in shorter wiper life, wiper blade "chatter", premature failure of wiper's transmission/motor.
Thanks, the last thing I need is my wiper motor to go. That's an expensive part to replace due to labor.

I really have to fix the driver shield wiper arm, either try that Dremel, or replace it with a later model arm. I know some people have done that with success, can't recall if they replaced both arms or just the driver side. I hate having the blade lift up continuously, drives me nuts.
Last edited by viper69 on Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:16 am, edited 1 time in total.


Volvo 850 GLT 1995

5 Speed Manual transmission

122,500 miles and barely broken in

Previous:
'82 Volvo DL Wagon, 4 speed manual
'77 Saab 99 EMS, 4 speed manual

Teddy1975
Posts: 246
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:57 am
Year and Model: 850 1996
Location: Denmark
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 7 times
Denmark
Teddy1975

Re: Driver Side Windshield Wiper Arm

Post by Teddy1975 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:58 am

Trimming off the metal of the base of the wiper arm won't fix the underlying cause for the blade lifting from the window. The metal gives due to age and the constant pressure from the springs and will continue to do so even after trimming the metal. In the end the base of the arm will rub against the hood, so it's only good for a short term fix.

Just buy a new wiper arm for less than $25 from IPD or europarts and it'll likely last for the next 10 years if not more. It takes less than five minutes replacing it.

Just my opinion of course :)


Current: 850 2.0L N/A, 4 door 1996 manual
Previous: 740 2.3L N/A, 5 door 1992 manual, and S70 2.5T 1999 manual

viper69
Posts: 408
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2004 6:41 pm
Year and Model: 850GLT 1995
Location: USA
Has thanked: 44 times
Been thanked: 1 time
United States of America
viper69

Re: Driver Side Windshield Wiper Arm

Post by viper69 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:22 am

Teddy1975 wrote:Trimming off the metal of the base of the wiper arm won't fix the underlying cause for the blade lifting from the window. The metal gives due to age and the constant pressure from the springs and will continue to do so even after trimming the metal. In the end the base of the arm will rub against the hood, so it's only good for a short term fix.

Just buy a new wiper arm for less than $25 from IPD or europarts and it'll likely last for the next 10 years if not more. It takes less than five minutes replacing it.

Just my opinion of course :)
So the people who have used the Dremel are only experiencing a SHORT TERM solution. I've always knew the springs were an issue. I THOUGHT the tension of the springs was too strong, that is they pulled on the arm too strongly, causing it bend. I have no idea why most people report the Driver side being an issue and not the passenger side too.

I've removed my own wiper arms it's not hard.

Are you suggesting buying a new 850GLT arm, or one from the new models that do not have this problem? If a later model, from which model year to buy a driver side arm for? And, I'm not sure if I have to replace both arms simply because I'm replacing the driver side with a different model.

I know for a fact the original driver side arm lasted less than 10 years.


Volvo 850 GLT 1995

5 Speed Manual transmission

122,500 miles and barely broken in

Previous:
'82 Volvo DL Wagon, 4 speed manual
'77 Saab 99 EMS, 4 speed manual

User avatar
misha
Posts: 3976
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:09 pm
Year and Model: '97 850 2.5 20v
Location: Serbia
Has thanked: 34 times
Been thanked: 93 times
Serbia
misha

Re: Driver Side Windshield Wiper Arm

Post by misha » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:53 am

I trimmed the metal at the bottom of the wiper arm like described at topic "wiper arm-the real fix" two weeks ago and got nothing.
Everything is the same if not worse.
I use flat type of wipers on both of my cars and i think that problem is in their design.
I ended up bending the wiper arm like it was before i tried to fix it.
I have a problem ONLY with driver's side wiper arm.


'97 850 2.5 20v /fully equipped/ Motronic 4.4 / polar white wagon
'91 Citroen XM 2.0 SI /fully equipped/mandarine red metallic
History of Volvos in the family:
'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
'78 244 DL
'78 244 DL
'79 244 GLE
'85 340 GLS

Teddy1975
Posts: 246
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:57 am
Year and Model: 850 1996
Location: Denmark
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 7 times
Denmark
Teddy1975

Re: Driver Side Windshield Wiper Arm

Post by Teddy1975 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:08 am

viper69 wrote:So the people who have used the Dremel are only experiencing a SHORT TERM solution. I've always knew the springs were an issue. I THOUGHT the tension of the springs was too strong, that is they pulled on the arm too strongly, causing it bend. I have no idea why most people report the Driver side being an issue and not the passenger side too.

I've removed my own wiper arms it's not hard.

Are you suggesting buying a new 850GLT arm, or one from the new models that do not have this problem? If a later model, from which model year to buy a driver side arm for? And, I'm not sure if I have to replace both arms simply because I'm replacing the driver side with a different model.

I know for a fact the original driver side arm lasted less than 10 years.
I replaced mine with a new one for 850. The base of the arm is made from cast aluminum and due to the flawed design of the wiper arm the springs will eventually bend that one as well. It isn't the tension of the springs being too strong I think, it's the S-bend in the wiper arm allowing for the base to be twisted that is the real problem.

I look at the replacement wiper arm as an extra cost to keep the car running. Sort of like changing spark plugs, though at different intervals of course. I based the longevity of the arm on my own '96 850, which had the original arm when I purchased it (Sorry for missing that statement in my first post). Even if I may end up having to buy a new in 5 years time, it'll still be less than $5 per year to have a wiper that I won't need to worry about. PO had bent the arm and the base was knocking into the edge of the hood every time I used the wipers and still it didn't touch all of the window. The new arm does the trick and sits where it is supposed to.


Current: 850 2.0L N/A, 4 door 1996 manual
Previous: 740 2.3L N/A, 5 door 1992 manual, and S70 2.5T 1999 manual

xHeart
Posts: 2482
Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:05 am
Year and Model: 1997 854 NA
Location: Great Lakes - USA
Has thanked: 17 times
Been thanked: 27 times
United States of America
xHeart

Re: Driver Side Windshield Wiper Arm

Post by xHeart » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:29 pm

+3
Teddy1975 wrote:Trimming off the metal of the base of the wiper arm won't fix the underlying cause for the blade lifting from the window. The metal gives due to age and the constant pressure from the springs and will continue to do so even after trimming the metal. In the end the base of the arm will rub against the hood, so it's only good for a short term fix.

Just buy a new wiper arm for less than $25 from IPD or europarts and it'll likely last for the next 10 years if not more. It takes less than five minutes replacing it.

Just my opinion of course :)


--
Golden Retriever | 2014D VIDA DiCE | 2013A XC90 +140mi/225km | 2001 V70XC 1st Owner +190mi/ +305km | 1997 Volvo 850 NA 1st Owner +180mi/ +289km
Past: German Shepherd | 1989 Volvo 740 GL | 1979 Volvo 240

User avatar
abscate
MVS Moderator
Posts: 18409
Joined: Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:54 pm
Year and Model: 99T5 ,99S70,2005V70
Location: NYC, ALBANY NY
Has thanked: 208 times
Been thanked: 685 times
Trinidad & Tobago
abscate

Re: Driver Side Windshield Wiper Arm

Post by abscate » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:35 am

viper69 wrote:
beigg wrote:too much can result in shorter wiper life, wiper blade "chatter", premature failure of wiper's transmission/motor.
Thanks, the last thing I need is my wiper motor to go. That's an expensive part to replace due to labor.

I really have to fix the driver shield wiper arm, either try that Dremel, or replace it with a later model arm. I know some people have done that with success, can't recall if they replaced both arms or just the driver side. I hate having the blade lift up continuously, drives me nuts.
I pulled one from my parts car in 15 minutes. It isn't too bad a job with a small 1/4 inch drive for clearance


Empty Nester
A Captain in a Sea of Estrogen
1999-V70-T5M56 2005-V70-M56 1999-S70 VW T4 BMW

Post Reply