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Re: Recommended phone holder?

Post by RickHaleParker » Sat Apr 27, 2019 9:07 pm

callahanoffroad wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2019 8:56 pm
Neat! I've never seen that before :D looks like I get to do some shopping!
Go to eBay and use the search terms "GPS mirror" .


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Re: Recommended phone holder?

Post by Rattnalle » Sat Apr 27, 2019 11:58 pm

RickHaleParker wrote:
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I agree in principle, but a lot of people, myself included, really like using our devices for GPS nav which is pretty hands-off for the most part. So I wouldn't necessarily say "in any capacity".
Too many people cannot keep their hands off a ringing phone or a notification.
A dedicated GPS does not cost much and you can turn off the phone without losing your way or your life.

Drives a Volvo, $700 - $1000 phone but to cheap to buy a GPS. The GPS would pay for itself in terms of data usage reductions.
Dedicated GPS units are pretty useless by comparison IMHO.

And having a conversation on the phone hands free and with a passenger is comparable as a distraction. The topic discussed is actually more important than even using a hands free according to some research. Don't have a serious discussion in the car. So do you enforce total silence on passengers as well?



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Re: Recommended phone holder?

Post by RickHaleParker » Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:46 am

It is not what you are doing with your hands that is the problem, it is what your doing with your brain.

When I first started driving you could get a ticket for inattentive driving. Which included, talking, eating, putting on make up, shaving, attending to children and messing with the radio.


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Post by wrybread » Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:51 am

Thanks for all the tips!

The main issue (to me at least) with dedicated gps units is that they don't have traffic data, which makes them useless by modern standards. That means that if someone doesnt have their phone in a holder, they're going to hold it in their hand when looking at that traffic data, which is far more dangerous than looking at the phone on it's holder.

To each his or her own of course though.

That smart mirror sounds interesting. Does it work well?

On a side note one of the reasons I didn't get a more modern car is that there's nothing worse than an antiquainted nav system. I'd much rather provide my own, whether it's on a tablet or a phone.
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Re: Recommended phone holder?

Post by RickHaleParker » Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:40 am

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The main issue (to me at least) with dedicated gps units is that they don't have traffic data,
I got a high end Garmin with traffic data over ten years .


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Re: Recommended phone holder?

Post by wrybread » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:58 am

Do you have a lot of experience with Waze? Do you think the data is as complete? Does it alert you to hazards in the road for example?



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Post by RickHaleParker » Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:53 pm

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Does it alert you to hazards in the road for example?
No GPS software can alert you to hazards. Traffic data alerts you to inconveniences not hazards.


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Post by wrybread » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:41 pm

Waze most definitely alerts you to hazards. Not every hazard of course, but in my experience most of them, on well travelled roads at least. "Careful, there's a mattress on the road ahead" and sure enough there it is. They're reported by other users and it works surprisingly well. Downright handy.

It will also tell you the cause of a traffic jam if there is one (accident, construction), which is nice too. Always reminds me of the old cb radio days.



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Re: Recommended phone holder?

Post by RickHaleParker » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:57 pm

wrybread wrote:
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"Careful, there's a mattress on the road ahead" and sure enough there it is. They're reported by other users and it works surprisingly well. Downright handy.
Waze is stupid and irresponsible! Waze encourages people to text while driving, creating a bigger hazard the the reported.
If Waze users where not so busy reading and reporting they would see the mattress on the road with their own eyes.


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Re: Recommended phone holder?

Post by wrybread » Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:02 pm

Plenty of people not driving report those hazards. I've never reported a single hazard when driving, but plenty when in the passenger seat.



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