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Re: Engine died while driving and won't start.

Post by valvolvo70 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:49 am

Thank you members for all the troubleshooting guidance. I will check and reply...
1. Ether
2. Fuel pressure
3. FPR
4. Cap/rotor (with images for Apl users) Note: Cap is OEM Bosch 17K miles.

Codes: P0440 and P0455

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Re: Engine died while driving and won't start.

Post by bmdubya1198 » Mon Apr 06, 2020 2:56 pm

misha wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:08 am
Just Evap codes for years...but now...we confirmed that purge valve was stuck open.
It normaly must be closed at rest untill ecu ask for it.
I'm waiting for results after the advice i have him.
Gotcha, so no other DTCs. I've had many cases lately where I'm diagnosing something like this with no DTCs at all.
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Re: Engine died while driving and won't start.

Post by abscate » Mon Apr 06, 2020 7:05 pm

valvolvo70 wrote:
Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:49 am
Thank you members for all the troubleshooting guidance. I will check and reply...
1. Ether
2. Fuel pressure
3. FPR
4. Cap/rotor (with images for Apl users) Note: Cap is OEM Bosch 17K miles.

Codes: P0440 and P0455

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Re: Engine died while driving and won't start.

Post by valvolvo70 » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:11 am

ETHER question...please see image.
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Re: Engine died while driving and won't start.

Post by misha » Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:38 pm

Down and AFTER the Maf.
Closer to throttle body.
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Re: Engine died while driving and won't start.

Post by bmdubya1198 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:07 am

You'll want to spray it in the throttle body itself, just remove the hose that goes into it from the intercooler outlet.
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Re: Engine died while driving and won't start.

Post by valvolvo70 » Tue May 05, 2020 3:28 pm

**UPDATE**

1. Ether- Didn't need as I was able to start it.
2. Fuel pressure- 40 psi prime key position ll. At the time of testing psi, it wouldn't start.
3. FPR- TBD
4. Cap/rotor (with images for Apl users) Note: Cap is OEM Bosch 17K miles.- See images I cleaned it.

Engine stumbling AFTER reaching temp. It ran great today, drove up/down my street until the engine reached temp.
Replaced EVAP purge valve, new OEM Bosch.
Codes: P0102 (I disconnected the MAF) and P0444.
I'm having the exact same issues as previously posted, here's the link...viewtopic.php?f=1&t=86966

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Re: Engine died while driving and won't start.

Post by scot850 » Tue May 05, 2020 3:43 pm

That looks like oil in the dizzy cap. You may have a leaking rear cam seal which allows oil into the distributor flooding it.

If you haven't already, do the rubber/latex glove test. Place the glove over the oil filler on the top of the engine while running and se if it inflates. If it does you have, then the crankcase pressure will blow out your cam and rear/front crank seals.

It could just be a bad cam seal but more likely crank pressure.

Fuel pressure should be 42 psi, but will probably be ok.

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Re: Engine died while driving and won't start.

Post by valvolvo70 » Tue May 05, 2020 4:13 pm

scot850 wrote:
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That looks like oil in the dizzy cap. Yes, and condensation. You may have a leaking rear cam seal which allows oil into the distributor flooding it. I think so, Ive seen more oil leaking from the crank position sensor.

If you haven't already, do the rubber/latex glove test. Place the glove over the oil filler on the top of the engine while running and se if it inflates. If it does you have, then the crankcase pressure will blow out your cam and rear/front crank seals. I did last year while troubleshooting the same issues and it did inflate.

It could just be a bad cam seal but more likely crank pressure.

Fuel pressure should be 42 psi, but will probably be ok. I'll check again now that it's starting regularly.

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Re: Engine died while driving and won't start.

Post by bmdubya1198 » Tue May 05, 2020 5:34 pm

If you haven't done the PCV yet, I recommend doing that very soon as well as replacing the rear cam seals.
2000 V70R Venetian Red/Charcoal M56 Swapped 197k
2003 S60 2.4T Silver/Black 113k
2007 XC90 V8 AWD Sport Titanium Grey/Black 171k
1991 944 Turbo Dark Green/Beige 174k
1992 245 Base White/Beige 249k
2006 BMW 330i
1999 BMW 528i
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2000 S70 GLT Mystic Silver/Taupe 253k
1993 944 Base Beige/Beige 221k
1998 V70 GLT Black/Beige 199k
1998 S90- Silver/Gray 207k
1995 850 GLT Tropic Green... crushed
2001 S60 2.4T Black/Black 230k
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