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abscate wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:29 pm I thought every P80 had curtain air bags?
"The 1998 S80 was the first model and year for Volvo. By 2000 all Volvo cars where equipped with Inflatable Curtains (IC) except the first generation C70 received an enlarged side-torso airbag that also protects the head of front-seat occupants. The second-generation C70 convertible received the world's first door-mounted, side-curtain airbags that deployed upwards."
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I think SIPS bags were optional up until '96 or '97, then they became standard. Not entirely sure on the year, but I know by '98 on the X70s, they were standard.
There were never full curtain air bags in these cars, the SIPS bags were the only option. IC airbags weren't available until the P2. My S60s have both had them. For research purposes, they could easily be confused, but as far as I know and have seen, no IC bags for P80s.
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MoVolvos wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:58 pm What Can Go Wrong?

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If most those parts were replaced with aftermarket junk, almost anything/everything. If they were done right then great, but at $1k I am skeptical. Worth looking at!
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RickHaleParker wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:17 am
abscate wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2019 11:29 pm I thought every P80 had curtain air bags?
"The 1998 S80 was the first model and year for Volvo. By 2000 all Volvo cars where equipped with Inflatable Curtains (IC) except the first generation C70 received an enlarged side-torso airbag that also protects the head of front-seat occupants. The second-generation C70 convertible received the world's first door-mounted, side-curtain airbags that deployed upwards."
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I learned SIPS is the name for the stuctural design of re-distributing side forces to the frame - on all P80s as a design feature.
Side curtain air bags indeed optional in 1995-6 (market dependent), standard 1998 on.

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All P80s from '94 or '95 on should have the SIPS (maybe even all of them, I can't remember exactly) structural support, but the SIPS bags in the seats were introduced later. They started out as an option.
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bmdubya1198 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:40 am All P80s from '94 or '95 on should have the SIPS (maybe even all of them, I can't remember exactly) structural support, but the SIPS bags in the seats were introduced later. They started out as an option.
Yes, SIPS started as structural support then went to bags and then curtains. However there was a SIPS-BAG II for the 1999 and up S70. This is the side bag that extended to the head in the video I posted earlier. Was confused by it now it makes sense.

"In 1998, for the 1999 model year, the system was extensively redesigned. With the launch of the Volvo S80 the IC airbag, [23] a curtain style airbag [24]"... Because of technical reasons the existing Volvo S70, V70 and C70 models were instead equipped with the SIPS-BAG II. [13][25]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side_Impa ... te-SBG2-13

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17/07/1998 (SIPS-BAG II)
Second-Generation Sips-Bag protects both chest and head

The 1999 models of the Volvo S70 and Volvo V70 will include the

The new side airbag is larger than the previous one and protects
both the chest and the head.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150221210 ... uage=en-gb
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erikv11 wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2019 8:01 am
MoVolvos wrote: Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:58 pm
What Can Go Wrong?

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If most those parts were replaced with aftermarket junk, almost anything/everything. If they were done right then great, but at $1k I am skeptical. Worth looking at!
Finances permit to purchase something more late model with Curtain Bags. I love Volvos but am not a diehard for any particular model so 99 S70 and up. Those at least have a SIPS II which has a larger side bag that extends to the head.

Son got rear ended by an older lady driver wearing thong slippers in her 50th Anniversary Mustang. He was slowing for an interchange and she just drove straight into him no skid marks. She changed out of the broken slippers before the LEO arrived. Had that been a T-Bone without Curtain Bags! Still working with her insurance but one Estimate was $5700 so the 03 Lexus is totaled. Have gotten cameras for all the cars now.

Thanks for the checking for aftermarket junk parts!
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Estimate was $5700 so the 03 Lexus is totaled.
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MoVolvos wrote: Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:08 pm Yes, SIPS started as structural support then went to bags and then curtains. However there was a SIPS-BAG II for the 1999 and up S70. This is the side bag that extended to the head in the video I posted earlier. Was confused by it now it makes sense.

"In 1998, for the 1999 model year, the system was extensively redesigned. With the launch of the Volvo S80 the IC airbag, [23] a curtain style airbag [24]"... Because of technical reasons the existing Volvo S70, V70 and C70 models were instead equipped with the SIPS-BAG II. [13][25]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Side_Impa ... te-SBG2-13

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17/07/1998 (SIPS-BAG II)
Second-Generation Sips-Bag protects both chest and head

The 1999 models of the Volvo S70 and Volvo V70 will include the

The new side airbag is larger than the previous one and protects
both the chest and the head.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150221210 ... uage=en-gb
Thanks for posting! I was pretty sure P80s never got true IC bags. That was a P2 thing. Good to know the '99+ models got improved SIPS bags.
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