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Yeah, I'm not a fan of the sport kit. Lots of people love it, I like how it looks without it.
It looks clean, but I'm betting there was some front end damage at some point. Those aren't R headlights.
Thanks for the observation on the lights. I saw a Russian video I think introducing and testing the S60 R AWD. In looking at all the Volvos recently I think I am down to the XC90, C30 and S80. Maybe a S70. All the others have rear seats for children only. Even then their legs in a booster is cramped against the back of the front seats. The C30 has an amazing amount of rear head and leg room. Wide also being only a 2 seater in the rear.
Don't want my son to be driving his college friends in something cramp besides the S60 did not fare as well as other Volvos in the side crash test. Even the front legs were only Acceptable.
MoVolvos wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:45 pm
.... In looking at all the Volvos recently I think I am down to the XC90, C30 and S80. Maybe a S70. All the others have rear seats for children only. Even then their legs in a booster is cramped against the back of the front seats. The C30 has an amazing amount of rear head and leg room. Wide also being only a 2 seater in the rear.
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Thanks for this observation. Cars like the S40 and C70 have almost miniature cabins bordering on ridiculous, but I was disappointed to discover how small even the P2 S60 cabin space is.
Have you looked at P2 V70 cars, do you also lump them in the small cabin group?
Yeah, the S70 definitely has a lot more legroom than the S60. I'm 6'2" and can sit fairly comfortably in the back seat of an S70/P80 V70. The S60? Forget it!
I must say, the most comfortable rear seat is definitely in the RWD cars... 2/7/9 rear seats are wonderful! Ridiculously plush and plenty of room. The XC90 isn't bad either, those are some of the best seats, hands down.
bmdubya1198 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:32 am
Yeah, the S70 definitely has a lot more legroom than the S60. I'm 6'2" and can sit fairly comfortably in the back seat of an S70/P80 V70. The S60? Forget it!
I must say, the most comfortable rear seat is definitely in the RWD cars... 2/7/9 rear seats are wonderful! Ridiculously plush and plenty of room. The XC90 isn't bad either, those are some of the best seats, hands down.
Took my parents to test drive a used XC90 last year. They loved the middle row and said to buy it that day but it needed too much work.
MoVolvos wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:45 pm
.... In looking at all the Volvos recently I think I am down to the XC90, C30 and S80. Maybe a S70. All the others have rear seats for children only. Even then their legs in a booster is cramped against the back of the front seats. The C30 has an amazing amount of rear head and leg room. Wide also being only a 2 seater in the rear.
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Thanks for this observation. Cars like the S40 and C70 have almost miniature cabins bordering on ridiculous, but I was disappointed to discover how small even the P2 S60 cabin space is.
Have you looked at P2 V70 cars, do you also lump them in the small cabin group?
I've not sat in a P2 V70 though I like the looks and would consider it if was larger than the backseat of the 98 S70. My son who is taller than I but under 6', we test drove a P3 2007 S80 and he said the rear seat was comfortable though it looked small to me. That's his next favorite model in a V8 next to his 08 C30 T5. The V8 XC90's being 3rd.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_P2_platform
An S80 V8 would be fantastic... I really love those engines. I would love another XC90 V8 for myself, but they're out of my budget. Every now and again there will be a cheap one, but it's always at the wrong time... as usual!
MoVolvos wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:45 pm
.... In looking at all the Volvos recently I think I am down to the XC90, C30 and S80. Maybe a S70. All the others have rear seats for children only. Even then their legs in a booster is cramped against the back of the front seats. The C30 has an amazing amount of rear head and leg room. Wide also being only a 2 seater in the rear.
...
Thanks for this observation. Cars like the S40 and C70 have almost miniature cabins bordering on ridiculous, but I was disappointed to discover how small even the P2 S60 cabin space is.
Have you looked at P2 V70 cars, do you also lump them in the small cabin group?
P2 V70 rear seat is limo like in size, even for my six footer soccer defender who eats six meals a day.
MoVolvos wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:45 pm
.... In looking at all the Volvos recently I think I am down to the XC90, C30 and S80. Maybe a S70. All the others have rear seats for children only. Even then their legs in a booster is cramped against the back of the front seats. The C30 has an amazing amount of rear head and leg room. Wide also being only a 2 seater in the rear.
...
Thanks for this observation. Cars like the S40 and C70 have almost miniature cabins bordering on ridiculous, but I was disappointed to discover how small even the P2 S60 cabin space is.
Have you looked at P2 V70 cars, do you also lump them in the small cabin group?
P2 V70 rear seat is limo like in size, even for my six footer soccer defender who eats six meals a day.
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