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Control Arm bushings, just replace the arm!

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Control Arm bushings, just replace the arm!

Post by MarcM » Sun May 08, 2016 12:56 pm

The control arms come out slick. Using the method the Brit shows on YouTube here. No brake assy or driveshaft assy removal. I have the tools and equipment to do the bushings replacement, but just having a.. umm.. wonderful time 2+ hrs later. Issue is the stroke on the press (12 ton junk import) is about 12", a decent 20-ton is an hour away and they're not available today.
First bushing I did was the vertical one (towards rear of car. Slid right out under pressure. Finally got the right combinations to get the horizontal one out, vertical one to rear of car just about fell out. 3 hrs later I'm about to put the new ones in. Simply put, whoever said to just replace the control arms? Yes, you're right. Not worth the savings just doing the bushings. Estimating about 1-1/2 hrs max if I was to do both sides replacing the control arms as an assembly. I just wanted the polyurethane bushing. Could have gotten it as an assembly from IPD. Next lesson learned, you can't go cheap. The radiator that was inherently flawed? Lesson 1. Control arm bushings? Lesson 2.
Inventing new words as I go, glad I'm not video recording this.
2005 S60 2.5T AWD
IPD mods:
IPD HD PVC intercooler coupler/upper, HD Subframe poly inserts
ProPartsSweden HD top mount square mount, PPS lower torque rod & control arms.

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Re: Control Arm bushings, just replace the arm!

Post by MarcM » Sun May 08, 2016 2:09 pm

...annnnnnd... it slipped in the press driving home the horizontal bushing and blew the control arm in two. FCP Euro... keep those PPS control arms on sale!
2005 S60 2.5T AWD
IPD mods:
IPD HD PVC intercooler coupler/upper, HD Subframe poly inserts
ProPartsSweden HD top mount square mount, PPS lower torque rod & control arms.

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Re: Control Arm bushings, just replace the arm!

Post by vtl » Sun May 08, 2016 7:32 pm

I found it very easy. Was a bit harder on 2002, because LCA can't be put square on a bench for the front bushing, but still I was able to change it.
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Re: Control Arm bushings, just replace the arm!

Post by MarcM » Tue May 10, 2016 6:31 pm

So I learned a few more things today.
If I order from FCP Euro with free shipping I get the items the day after they ship them. Issue is they "Process" the order for a few days. If I order on a Saturday, they ship it Tuesday and get on a Weds every stinking time. This time I chose the $10 ground. Ordered yesterday afternoon, shipped last night and got it about 11am. Basically I need to pay $10 to get next day shipping. Ok, fine.
The ProParts Sweden control arm I installed tonight (driver side) was a bear getting the ball joint in. There are secrets not in the video. Do the front bolt first like he says, swing the arm up into the vertical mount (I used a little grease lightly spread on bushing top/bottom) and get the bolt in w/nut to hold (as he says). Secrets are: Get the rear bolt of the front mount started (not in video so well) after rear bolt lightly installed. Turn the wheel straight, push down on the control arm with your hand and weasel the ball joint back in, installing the nut. No need for the ratchet strap ordeal. 'Course being a recently retired from the road beer delivery guy, it was easy to push down. Go and tighten all the bolts to spec. I used "Marky tight" since getting a socket onto the front bushing bolts is well... impossible on the rear one. Front one needs a swivel.
When I got it aligned after the towing escapade (bent rear stay), they told me the tie rod boot was torn on the driver side. Ohhhh yeah. It's torn. Fumbled with it to see if there was a Yankee fix for it and had power steering fluid coming out. About ready to sell this parts pig and buy a Yugo.
The drive is firmer with just that one lower control arm alone. Feels like a "Sports Sedan" should.
Round 2 tomorrow night... passenger side.
2005 S60 2.5T AWD
IPD mods:
IPD HD PVC intercooler coupler/upper, HD Subframe poly inserts
ProPartsSweden HD top mount square mount, PPS lower torque rod & control arms.

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Re: Control Arm bushings, just replace the arm!

Post by vtl » Tue May 10, 2016 7:29 pm

Suspension parts for 11 years old car is not "parts pig", right? ;)
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Re: Control Arm bushings, just replace the arm!

Post by MarcM » Tue May 10, 2016 8:32 pm

vtl wrote:Suspension parts for 11 years old car is not "parts pig", right? ;)
Let me put it into context, here's the cars I've owned and driven daily (except 3):
1949 GMC 250 Canopy Express Longbed (228ci I6, 4spd man. Hurriacane Hugo dropped a 2' maple across it before restoration)
1981 Dodge Aries (2.2L I4, auto)
1983 Datsun 280ZX 2+2 (2.8L I6, 5-spd man)
1982 Plymouth Reliant Wagon (2.2L I4, 4-spd man)
1983 Dodge Aries Wagon (2.2L I4, auto) *sold, didn't register)
1984 Dodge Charger (2.2L, 5-spd man)
1985 Chevy P-30 Stepvan (4-cyl Hercules turbo diesel repower, TH400 Auto)
1986 Dodge Ram 1500 RWD (318ci, Auto)
1996 Dodge Ram 2500HD (360ci, Auto)
1987 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham d'Elegance (302ci V8)
1985.5 Honda CRX Si (1.5L, 5-spd man)
1992 Lincoln Towncar Signature (4.6L V8)
1996 Lincoln Towncar Executive (4.6L V8) *gave away, didn't register*
1998 Dodge Dakota SLT Sport 4x4 (318ci 5-spd man)
1987 Harley FXST (1384ci V2, updated from 5 to 6spd)
2000 Kia Sephia LS (ugh, lives in scrapyard where it belongs)
1987 Honda Civic DX sedan (1.5L, 5-spd) *Nephew borrowing*
2005 Volvo S60 2.5T AWD (2.5L turbo, GearTronic 5spd auto)

All of them needed basic service (tune up/tires) and sold/scrapped because of something major (I do 22,000+ miles a year on NH roads) so that means rust. Most had 150+k miles on purchase, except '96 Ram (35k) and run for 3-4 years, several concurrently. On this Volvo so far I've publicly replaced the control arms, radiator, condenser, rear stay and a rear wheel bearing. What's not known is what this needs next: The steering rack leak just came to light this afternoon (possible full replacement), needs rear spring/shocks eventually (sagging enough to mess up alignment per alignment shop so I took 100+ lb tool box out), sump rebuild/screen clean/pcv system flushed, front CV joints make a single click-click when coming to a stop, very light occasional drip leak near transmission/awd diff, possible front wheel bearings (could be CV joint noise) and other daily surprises.

In reality I'd be serious about dumping it if it weren't such a damned comfortable car and love driving it as much as the Caddy, '92 Lincoln and '96 Ram and is my favorite car to date. I guess it's like publicly complaining about your gf/wife's spending habits... you love her, but hate her appetite for money.
2005 S60 2.5T AWD
IPD mods:
IPD HD PVC intercooler coupler/upper, HD Subframe poly inserts
ProPartsSweden HD top mount square mount, PPS lower torque rod & control arms.

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Re: Control Arm bushings, just replace the arm!

Post by vtl » Wed May 11, 2016 5:04 am

I see that you missed a few "must replace" items, like PCV, alarm siren, Haldex pump, DIM, CV axles, so be warned ;)
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Re: Control Arm bushings, just replace the arm!

Post by MarcM » Wed May 11, 2016 5:36 am

LOL! Actually, the alarm is silent, yes. Add that. "pcv system flushed" to to-do in my list is probably a PCV 'must replace'. CV axles are probably a 'must replace' due to the mentioned 'click-click' when coming to a near stop.
If I was able to swing it currently, I'd just go out and get a new S90/V90 and keep this as a project car. ;) Yes, I am a new Volvo fan... but currently in a love-hate relationship. I wonder if I should change my social media status to "In a relationship with Volvo S60... It's complicated". The gf would freak probably, but it's more accurate.
2005 S60 2.5T AWD
IPD mods:
IPD HD PVC intercooler coupler/upper, HD Subframe poly inserts
ProPartsSweden HD top mount square mount, PPS lower torque rod & control arms.

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