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Re: P2 Clutch job - any inputs/experience/advice

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Re: P2 Clutch job - any inputs/experience/advice

Post by precopster » Sat Sep 23, 2017 4:17 pm

Not totally sure if it's too late but you could have rigged up some subframe hangers which are no more than M18 threaded rod with adjustable nuts and washers in place of the 4 subframe bolts. I fabricated a set in my workshop with a welder....saves subframe removal.
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Re: P2 Clutch job - any inputs/experience/advice

Post by abscate » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:48 pm

I could still do that, Mike, but I'm not sure of that really saves me that much work over just dropping it?

I still have to do all the disconnects.
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Re: P2 Clutch job - any inputs/experience/advice

Post by abscate » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:18 am

Update today.

Elapsed so far

1 hour spent gathering tools, info, putting engine bar together
2 hours disconnecting, draining, and removing steering knuckles and driveshaft

Today
1 1/2 hours dropping subframe - this is a Southern car so things were really good rust and corrosion wise.
I found two connections not documented in VIDA - both on the front top of subframe, M6 bolts holding PS tube and ground cable - both obvious

The sub frame is not heavy - maybe 100 pounds total? Easily moved by one person, and easily lowered in stages by hand onto blocks while watching for things hanging up.

VIDA cautions to make sure the steering rack threads clear the subframe - mine did without intervention.

Prognostication

Another 2 hours to get the engine dropped, trans out, and clutch/seals sorted

Another 2 hours to reinstall

Another 1 hour to finalize.

Total - 9-10 hours. Pretty much on the book, but Im doing this on my back, whereas the book is on a lift. I could save a lot of time on a lift with the jacks and tools Volvo has. I would guess a 6 hour job.

Also replacing

Rear engine oil seal
Clutch slave
Release bearing
All cooling hoses
Noisy right front wheel bearing

Lots of pictures to come
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Wire harnes screw was forgotten.
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Subframe drops easily by hand, can lower by steps easily
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Ker plunk
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Also PS pipe brace on top of subframe
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Re: P2 Clutch job - any inputs/experience/advice

Post by oragex » Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:58 am

While there, the lines at the steering rack can rust and leak, the downpipe flexible starts leaking after 10 years, sway bar bushings to frame get worn

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Re: P2 Clutch job - 2005 V70 NA clutch subframe engine drop

Post by abscate » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:49 am

Now I'm reading VIDA a jaundiced eye and sure enough the " 7 bolts holding engine and trans together look like this ....

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HAve to read up on counter holding and releasing clutch plate with DMF
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Hey VOLVO!! You were supposed to mount this with TWO M12s !!!! Detonated Release bearing, Clutch slave cylinder
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VIDA " Release 7 screws" - yeah, all 12 of them.
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Corvid view of the subframe - You can tell this one is Canadian
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Re: P2 Clutch job - 2005 V70 NA clutch subframe engine drop

Post by abscate » Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:27 pm

You don't want the PS rack flopping around when you drop the subframe

VIDA makes reference to a fancy flexible retractor - I tied the pass side of the rack to the engine lowering bar, making sure you don't go through the sway bar, and then put a jack stand under the other end of the rack to keep it from flapping in the breeze.
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Re: P2 Clutch job - 2005 V70 NA clutch subframe engine drop

Post by cuhfs » Mon Sep 25, 2017 8:26 pm

Wow that's progress! Nice!!!
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Re: P2 Clutch job - 2005 V70 NA clutch subframe engine drop

Post by abscate » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:28 pm

YYYYEEEESSSSSS!!
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Re: P2 Clutch job - 2005 V70 NA clutch subframe engine drop

Post by cuhfs » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:36 pm

Smooth sailing from their!
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