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Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by BlackBart » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:34 am

RE oil leak. No significant drips on the floor, so I can watch it for a while. Both ends of the block are dry. It's right about the area of the dipstick tube / PCV box etc. Can't get a light and a mirror to see how high up it is yet.


Question on the angle gear oil. I have new to go in. Should I rig up a tube to suck the old out of there first? I just don't want it low or dry with leaks.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by - Pete - » Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:44 am

Yep, you got it. I think the top hole in the strut bottom is the one that allows for chamber adjustment. I usually smack a line with a chisel before disassembly so I get the camber set right when I put it back together. Basically, hit both the knuckle & the top ear of the strut bottom at the same time for your line.

I’d just set it all the way in (push towards engine bay on top of rotor while tightening) if you didn’t mark prior to disassembly. Get those bolts/nuts super tight!

For alignment, if you didn’t touch the tie rod ends & it was tracking straight before I’d leave it alone. Usually if I have one tie rod end bad (cuz usually it’s just one and not both), I replace that one. Count how many turns removing the old one, then install the new one with that many turns going in. If it pulls left or right, adjust only that tie rod end til it’s tracking true. Just loosen the big jam but & adjust the little stud that has the 13mm hex on it. Or is it 10mm?

Oil leak - could be dipstick tube seal if you did PCV & reused the old one. I had a leak in that vicinity but it disappeared. I still think it may have been a banjo bolt Cu crush washer that had a little wave in it. You got an endoscope?

Bevel gear oil - if it’s never been changed, I’d definitely suck out the old stuff if you have new gear oil to replace it with. No need for special oil here, just synthetic 75-90ish weight is fine. I usually can suck out 6-700ml. I don’t recall what the fill quantity it, but fill until it drips out & then evacuate 100ml.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by BlackBart » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:12 am

- Pete - wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:44 am
Yep, you got it. I think the top hole in the strut bottom is the one that allows for chamber adjustment
I’d just set it all the way in (push towards engine bay on top of rotor while tightening) if you didn’t mark prior to disassembly. Get those bolts/nuts super tight!
Yep, that's where I put them, pushed in. Yes, torque plus 90 degrees I believe it was.

Tie rods good, didn't touch them.

There shouldn't be any oil pressure at the dipstick tube to spray on things around there, though, would there?
No cameras over here, Boss.

No record of angle gear or Haldex ever touched. I have the Haldex filter here - do that another time.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by Rattnalle » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:41 am

- Pete - wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:44 am
Yep, you got it. I think the top hole in the strut bottom is the one that allows for chamber adjustment. I usually smack a line with a chisel before disassembly so I get the camber set right when I put it back together. Basically, hit both the knuckle & the top ear of the strut bottom at the same time for your line.
Neat trick! I'm doing the strut bearings later this week and I'll definitely remember that one rather than eyeballing it.

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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by - Pete - » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:47 am

There shouldn't be pressure in the bottom of the case, no. But if when you put the dipstick tube back in & used an old o-ring it may have been cut or cracked. Oil does slosh around in there pretty good. Just saying, there's only so many spots for oil to leak from, it's one I'd check.

Yeah, save the Haldex/filter for a later date. It can really provide you with some good exercise getting the driveshaft free from the rear flange. I'd start shooting it with penetrant very early on before attempting it. Might wanna at least verify your AWD is working. Just jack one side of the car up (L or R) and put a chock in front of a wheel that's still in contact with the ground. Put car in drive & both front & rear wheels off the ground should spin.

Ratnalle - it's pretty obvious where you need to hit as to make contact with the two surfaces with one blow. I've also used a magnetic angle meter with the car on level ground (meter magnetized to the rotor) to see how far apart the camber on the two sides are. Gotta either have wheels with decent sized holes or you can just use a steel bar across the face of the rim.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by BlackBart » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:06 pm

Oh, guess what I just found - a split in the elbow hose from the PCV box to the block. New Volvo part I might add, not uro.

So that's blowing oil vapor all over things down there I'm guessing. What are the implications of driving it like that?
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by - Pete - » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:18 pm

I used a URÖ J-hose on one of my last PCV jobs. I believe it has about 5-8k on it as of now. They are identical in every way to oem.

I also got a couple as spares seeing as you can get them with amazon prime, $12 vs $75 oem.

I’ve read the horror stories for a few brands of j-hoses, genuine Volvo included.

Post a picture of where it split once you get to it. I wonder if it split on a “seam”? Has to either be a seam split or your clamp cut it.

If you got it through FCP I’d get a replacement for free.

I’d fix it or you’re gonna have a big mess to clean. I’ve never tried to access or replace that with the manifold in place. Might take the radiator fans out to see if you can get enough room to get the clamps off of it. If successful, might need to use worm drive clamps vs Oetikers.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by Rattnalle » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:38 pm

It might be doable but I'm not sure if it'll be much easier than removing the manifold.

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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by BlackBart » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:50 pm

It's on the short leg of the L, just outboard / forward of the clamp. Drivers side of the hose, vertical split.

They're not going to get me one by Thurs, even if I could get to it. This pisses me off, new part.
Redneck tape job.....a glob of construction caulk / adhesive, then smear it over the crack...? (These are extremely temporary ideas until I can get a hose)

Take the Subaru?



Charging Report!

At rest in the engine compartment, cold: 12.34V
At the battery under the floor with the lift gate light on: 12.16 (how does that make sense?)
Engine on, accessories off: 14.53
Can't rev it to 2000 and read by myself.
Lights / radio / seat heater / HVAC / rear defrost ON: 14.34

I'm off to get an alignment and warm up the trans to check level.
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Re: Long trip prep? ('04 XC)

Post by Rattnalle » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:51 pm

Measure in the cigarette lighter socket from the driver's seat.

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