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2004 S60R B8444S (V8) conversion (Previously : Exhaust Manifold removal.)

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Re: 2004 S60R Exhaust Manifold removal.

Post by RickHaleParker » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:05 pm

Worked out the logistics of transporting the new subframe assembly home and getting it on the ground, U-Haul with lift gate. How to work out how to raise the S60R to get the subframe assemblies in and out.

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Platform: P80 1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
Platform: X40 (Nedcar) 2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
Platform P2 2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
Platform P2 2004 S60R, B2524T4, AW50/51 AWD, B8444S TF80 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0, BorgWarner K24 turbocharger. V8 conversion in progress.

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Re: 2004 S60R Exhaust Manifold removal.

Post by RickHaleParker » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:21 am

Make the 200 mile trip to get the B8444S. Got it down to two bolts and then defeated. The to 18MM bolts holding the front of the engine cradle. A 1200 ft-lbs cordless impact would not budge them. A 24" in breaker would just budge them. Planning a second attempt with a 40" 3/4" breaker and a sure grip 18MM socket if I can find some local. Should be a break in the weather Thursday. If that does not pan out, it dead in the water. I need to return the borrowed F150.

Anybody that has gotten these two bolts out ... tips appreciated.

Still trying to figure out why somebody already picked the Exhaust manifolds. It is not like they wear out.
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Platform: P80 1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
Platform: X40 (Nedcar) 2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
Platform P2 2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
Platform P2 2004 S60R, B2524T4, AW50/51 AWD, B8444S TF80 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0, BorgWarner K24 turbocharger. V8 conversion in progress.

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Re: 2004 S60R Exhaust Manifold removal.

Post by abscate » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:34 am

Are these the subframe bolts? Are you dropping the engine down or picking it?

I would torch the hell out of them, 3 minutes with MAPP gas.
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Re: 2004 S60R Exhaust Manifold removal.

Post by bmdubya1198 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:39 am

Probably the yard that took the exhaust manifolds for the cats. One of the yards here does that, but they just cut them.
2000 V70R Venetian Red/Charcoal M56 Swapped 197k
2003 S60 2.4T Silver/Black 113k
2007 XC90 V8 AWD Sport Titanium Grey/Black 171k
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Re: 2004 S60R Exhaust Manifold removal.

Post by RickHaleParker » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:46 am

abscate wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:34 am
Are these the subframe bolts? Are you dropping the engine down or picking it?

I would torch the hell out of them, 3 minutes with MAPP gas.
They are the engine cradle to subframe bolts.

We removed everything on the front. The plan is down a few inches then straight out the front.

Junk Yard: rules no fire (No torches, no gas power generators).
Too many idiots who would set the yard on fire.

Besides there is rubber between the cradle and the subframe. It would catch fire.
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Platform: P80 1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
Platform: X40 (Nedcar) 2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
Platform P2 2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
Platform P2 2004 S60R, B2524T4, AW50/51 AWD, B8444S TF80 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0, BorgWarner K24 turbocharger. V8 conversion in progress.

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Re: 2004 S60R Exhaust Manifold removal.

Post by RickHaleParker » Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:50 am

bmdubya1198 wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:39 am
Probably the yard that took the exhaust manifolds for the cats. One of the yards here does that, but they just cut them.
This yard cut off the cats and the driveshaft. I get cutting the cats but the driveshaft which was above the cats? There would be no reason for the yard to remove either manifold from the engine block. Both are gone.
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Platform: X40 (Nedcar) 2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
Platform P2 2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
Platform P2 2004 S60R, B2524T4, AW50/51 AWD, B8444S TF80 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0, BorgWarner K24 turbocharger. V8 conversion in progress.

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Re: 2004 S60R Exhaust Manifold removal.

Post by bmdubya1198 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:42 am

Cutting the driveshaft? Now that’s ridiculous. That’s something that people occasionally need, too.
I don’t know why they would remove the manifolds either, that’s weird.
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2003 S60 2.4T Silver/Black 113k
2007 XC90 V8 AWD Sport Titanium Grey/Black 171k
1991 944 Turbo Dark Green/Beige 174k
1992 245 Base White/Beige 249k
2006 BMW 330i
1999 BMW 528i
Sold-
2000 S70 GLT Mystic Silver/Taupe 253k
1993 944 Base Beige/Beige 221k
1998 V70 GLT Black/Beige 199k
1998 S90- Silver/Gray 207k
1995 850 GLT Tropic Green... crushed
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Re: 2004 S60R Exhaust Manifold removal.

Post by RickHaleParker » Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:00 am

bmdubya1198 wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:42 am
Cutting the driveshaft? Now that’s ridiculous. That’s something that people occasionally need, too.
I don’t know why they would remove the manifolds either, that’s weird.
On the driveshaft, could be the cheap labor did not know any better. I think somebody picked the manifolds. Perhaps they acquired a B8444S and are building some kind of hot rod.
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Platform: P80 1998 C70, B5234T3, 16T, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package.
Platform: X40 (Nedcar) 2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
Platform P2 2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.
Platform P2 2004 S60R, B2524T4, AW50/51 AWD, B8444S TF80 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0, BorgWarner K24 turbocharger. V8 conversion in progress.

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Re: 2004 S60R Exhaust Manifold removal.

Post by bmdubya1198 » Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:03 am

RickHaleParker wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:00 am

On the driveshaft, could be the cheap labor did not know any better. I think somebody picked the manifolds. Perhaps they acquired a B8444S and are building some kind of hot rod.
That's definitely possible. I have a hard time believing the yard took the time to remove them properly.
2000 V70R Venetian Red/Charcoal M56 Swapped 197k
2003 S60 2.4T Silver/Black 113k
2007 XC90 V8 AWD Sport Titanium Grey/Black 171k
1991 944 Turbo Dark Green/Beige 174k
1992 245 Base White/Beige 249k
2006 BMW 330i
1999 BMW 528i
Sold-
2000 S70 GLT Mystic Silver/Taupe 253k
1993 944 Base Beige/Beige 221k
1998 V70 GLT Black/Beige 199k
1998 S90- Silver/Gray 207k
1995 850 GLT Tropic Green... crushed
2001 S60 2.4T Black/Black 230k
1988 744 Turbo M46 Beige Metallic/Beige 188k

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Re: 2004 S60R Exhaust Manifold removal.

Post by abscate » Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:16 pm

Rick - they may well have a torch there that a yard employee can use to heat something for you.

Or take the whole subframe with engine.
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