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Radiator protection?

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Tomorrow, I start on my 4th V70 radiator replacement. This, as always, is occasioned by striking a parking barrier. I have learned to recognize the sound. The problem is always the same, the core separating from the tanks on the lower right. Aside from greater caution on my part, is there anything to be done? Is there anything on the "off road" models designed to protect the tank? I have never noticed another car with the radiator so unprotected.
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Re: Radiator protection?

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Yes replace the front springs. I replaced the radiator in my S80 from the same problem. Dealership replaced the front struts, springs and associated mounts, seats, etc. This raised the front end up better than 2" and thus no more scraping parking stops. Use aftermarket stuff and who knows... Factory replacements were used on my car. June
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Not sure that is my problem. This is my second '04 V70 with the problem. Neither showed any sag, at 2" that should be discernible. It has struck me that my FLAPS always has one in stock. That suggests it is a common failure item. Radiators are large, take up a lot of space, I suspect that they only stock "popular" ones.
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New these cars don't scrape the parking space block type in photo below, if yours does then it has sagging springs. If they are original 2004 springs, for sure they are sagging a bit. I scraped one good and then had a leaking radiator tank. Both my 04 S80 and your 04 V70 are P2 platform cars. Therefore I would think the radiator area would be the same. June
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Strikes me as very poor design that the radiator extends below the front "air dam". You do not even receive a warning from hearing that scrape.
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I don’t think my 2005 hangs below , and I’ve had many a learner drive that car.
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abscate wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:07 pm I don’t think my 2005 hangs below , and I’ve had many a learner drive that car.
I think you are right Abscate. My thinking is the impact on the lower front structure of 3,800# of Volvo is enough to flex things just enough to upset the aged plastic of the radiator tank. Replacing the springs stopped the problem with my car. Mine scraped the bottom of the bumper for years gradually scraping worse. I was careful until one day it sagged just that smidge. I knew the scrape then bang I heard was not the usual accidental scraping as before. Sure enough coolant was seeping so I had it fixed straight away. The parking space it happened in was the space at my Publix I always use and had scraped many times before over the years. So it was my car sagging a little more not a encounter with a higher barricade. Its been a couple of years since the replacement and my car still doesn't scrape anymore. I can drive until the wheels hit the barricade. June
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Re: Radiator protection?

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I heard an ominous sound on our V70 AWD a couple months ago when mindlessly parking. I was pulling into a spot with a curb & the front of the car actually made contact. I hadn’t experienced that before, & am darn sure to never do it again. It scraped the underside of the front of the subframe, in my situation. I generally try to park in spots where I can back in or pull all the way through.

All but 1 of the aftermarket replacement radiators I’ve seen have plastic end tanks, & this is a big part of the problem. The necks crack & the end tanks separate. A company out of Sweden named do88 makes (by hand) an all aluminum radiator. It is quite beautiful & expertly crafted! I installed their radiator & their high capacity Intercooler a couple weeks back in one of my P2’s. Their radiator also incorporates ATF cooling for automatic models also.

All the places you’d usually shop can get do88 stuff, so check around for pricing.


https://www.do88.se/en/artiklar/volvo-s ... iator.html

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Re: Radiator protection?

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I've read about this failure a few times, I'm always careful not to get too close to those parking blocks. Speaking about lifting the front of the car, I have replaced the struts but kept my old springs, and the front end now sits about 1.5" higher, which I think it's awful, the handling is quite bad now, before it was handling like it was on rails, now the pleasing steering feeling is gone and at speed the car is actually quite unstable in emergency maneuvering. I put several shock brands and all of them lifted like this (now I have genuine ones). I think it may not actually be the shock itself, but perhaps it's the spring that 'extends" back when removed after having sat compressed for 10 years or so
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Replaced a radiator this Spring after hitting my first parking barrier. I thought I got away with it, but saw a couple of drips days later. Probably the original radiator on my 01 V70, so a lesson learned for me.
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