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oldandbroke
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Re: What did you do to your P2 Volvo today....now sticky!!

Post by oldandbroke »

oragex wrote: 04 Dec 2017, 12:43
Loved the story with 'brothers' car. You are 100% corect, mine was not a brother but a 'friend' who had left the country and of course the seller had another car for sale. As for the timing belt, it is a good idea to keep a very close eye on the water pump and pulleys around. Many people had a small place replacing it with the cheapest parts, and there are plenty of people with failed water pumps 1-2 years later snaping the belt. Just a small check now and then for a leaking pump or a shaking tensioner would be good insurance.
Hah, this guy had another car for sale, too. Lie fully confirmed via the paperwork below also! But the rest of the documentation is such a treat that I care even less than I did before about the lie.

Regarding checking the tensioner - this is the first post I've seen that leads me to think I can do any kind of worthwhile visual inspection. Is this just a matter of popping off the cover and looking at it while the engine is running?

Given his/her questions, I'm sure Georgeandkira will be interested in the below also. I don't know any other way to tag a user on this forum except to quote them, so:
Georgeandkira wrote: 03 Dec 2017, 06:34
3) Besides knowing the timing belt was done did you get any service records?

So, I promise I'll stop hijacking this thread soon, but while we can all agree I did things in the wrong order, a relative in the car business sent me the attached carfax report today, and it was super reassuring.

VIN and some other details redacted for no real reason besides a general feeling that I should.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8nc9visowi8n7 ... d.pdf?dl=0


Key points:
  • In my life I've never maintained a car as consistently as this - and certainly not had so much work done at the dealer - even cars that I really took pride in maintaining well. Much thanks to the prior owners of this car!! I now feel I have to *live up* to the prior owners. :-)
  • Saw lots of things replaced that I'm glad to see replaced.
  • Timing belt "check" is noted at the same date and mileage as what is recorded in paint marker under the hood with same date and mileage. (129K) Not sure what to make of that, but given how much other service they had done properly over the years, I'm doubting they falsified the under-hood markings.
  • I knew the seller was lying about the brother moving to Canada, but this confirms it, and shows it was bought at auction in June of this year.
  • Interesting thing going on in the very earliest entries with the color change. I don't know what to make of that. I kind of doubt it was a complete repaint - if it was, it was a ***COMPLETE*** repaint. Clerical error in the original documentation?
  • Last recorded dealer service was about 100 miles ago. (But several months ago.)
  • Most of the suspension bits that I'd tend to worry about have been replaced, reasonably recently.
  • One seemingly small accident reported at 120K-ish miles
  • WTH is a "Leak Detection Pump"? (March 1st 2016)
  • No ETM replacement noted unless I missed it. :o

Seeing all this has really set my mind at ease. :-)

I also noticed today when checking the tire pressure that I can more or less explain the non-standard rims and wheelcovers. They are the "winter tires" for the person who previously owned the car. (Not the guy I bought it from.) I was thinking to myself that the tread looked really aggressive for an all season. Almost like a snow tire. Sure enough, they say "M+S" in black on black, which I had to look really close to see. :-) So I'll run these until the spring, and then either look for a good deal on OEM rims and tires that someone wants to get rid of, or just get new tires.

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Post by Georgeandkira »

Re a set of alloys, BRIEFLY:

Subject to what you want, of course; get a set of Lysithia or Musca wheels.

Why, you ask? They're 15". They take a taller 65 series tire which is better for our crumby roads.
I had 'em (Lysitias) on my '02 and a neighbor had the Muscas on an '05 S60. 15" rubber shows up more often on "Clearances".

Echos, taking a 205-55-16 tire, are on my '07. Not a huge difference but noticeable.
This 16" size listed above is immensely popular. A guy working where I have gotten tires on clearance said my 16" size would NEVER be on clearance because it fits so many vehicles.

COINCIDENCE DEPT.: Before I found my '02 I test drove a manual.
The bloke said he was going back to Russia (his work having ended Hackensack). I took my test drive with his wife and kids in the car so I figured he was telling the truth but there was something incomplete about his pitch so I passed.

Here's my "Homegrown Carfax". It covers nearly 9 years of ownership. My PO ordered and waited 6 weeks for this car. He added the 3rd row seat and an auto-dimming center mirror. Auto-dimming sides weren't available in '02

Date Maintenance/Repair 2002 Volvo V70 base VIN YV1SW61RX22240553 Mileage
4/10/08 Mobil 1 oil/filter change, Clean air filter box, 1157A bulb (FL parking), R+R Windshield Washer Nozzle (Volvo # 30655606) 69,800
4/15/08 Cabin Air Filter (TYC 800013P), 5W5 license plate bulb (Volvo # 989795) 70,120
5/1/08 R+R Fuel Door Hinge (Volvo # 31265160), Headlight Wipers (Volvo # 274433), L & R Front Floor Liners (Rensi #s 200, 201) 71,200
5/5/08 N.J. inspection 71,354
6/2/08 Oil filter cartridge change, Rotate tires, Rocker Panel Rivets (Volvo # 9133417 = WE #2550) 73,251
6/23/08 Battery Interstate MTP H6 (30/85 prorated warranty through July 2015) 73,800
7/19/08 4 Bridgestone Turanza w/Serenity 195-65-R15 74,925
9/23/08 Mobil 1 oil/filter change, Rotate tires 77,800
11/4/08 P/S reservoir flush x 2 Volvo #30741424, Spark Plugs (Volvo # 8642660 ), Rear Wiper Blade (Bosch # 40716A) 80,400
12/2/08 Rotate tires (37.5 front/34 rear), 1156 bulb (RR brake) 81,500
1/7/09 H7 bulb (LF low-beam) 82,900
2/20/09 Brake rotors and pads Ft + Rr, Mobil 1 oil/filter change 85,500
4/29/09 Rotate tires (37.5/36) 88,370
5/13/09 Rear Exhaust Hanger 89,380
5/18/09 TCM Download (Volvo # 30677036) 90,232
7/3/09 Front end alignment, Balance front wheels 92,671
7/18/09 Mobil 1 oil/filter change 93,180
7/22/09 Balance rear wheels 93,731
8/7/09 Rotate tires (37.5/36) 94,650
9/12/09 Air filter (Mann #C30 189), Cabin Air filter (Volvo # 9204626), 96,300
10/5/09 Class II Trailer Hitch, Wiring Harness (Volvo # 8698079) 97,917
11/5/09 Mobil 1 oil/filter change, Transmission fluid drain/refill w/Mobil 3309, Rotate tires 100,140
11/21/09 H7 bulb (RF low-beam), wiper blades, Rain X windshield, Transmission fluid drain/refill w/Mobil 3309 102,400
4/13/10 Fuel filter (Scan Tech # 97.0512) 107,013
4/16/10 J-hose-EVAP system (Volvo # 1270255), Rear Mud Flaps (Volvo # 9190803) 107,164
4/23/10 Mobil 1 oil/filter change, Rotate tires, Front Mud Flaps (Volvo # 8698060) 107,640
5/27/10 N.J. inspection 109,125
8/2/10 Mobil 1 oil/filter change, Rotate tires, 113,230
1/15/11 Mobil 1 oil/filter change 121,500
2/27/11 Thermostat (Wahler OE # 271417), Rotate tires (32 psi) 122,738
3/29/11 R&R LF Park & Turn Signal Lamp Socket (Volvo # 8662985) 123,875
4/28/11 Air filter (Purolator # A35440), Cabin Air filter (CAF161CD) 125,300
5/18/11 RF H7 bulb (Flosser # 2070) 126,320
6/12/11 1 Transmission fluid drain/refill w/ Mobil 3309 127,536
6/25/11 Mobil 1 oil/filter change, Rear shocks (Sachs Supertouring 300074) 127,721
9/13/11 4 Bridgestone Potenza G009 195-65-R15 130,595
11/14/11 RF H7 Socket (Motormite # 85809), A/F Box Clamp 132,905
1/13/12 Mobil 1 oil/filter change, Fuel filter (WIX # 33605) 134,836
2/2/12 Air intake elbow (Volvo # 1332455) replaced w/silicone hose 7/22/15 @ 185,172 135,833
4/19/12 Parking brakes (Scan Tech #18.3322 hardware, 40.2398 shoes) 137,560
4/24/12 5W5 license plate bulb (Volvo # 989795) 137,818
5/7/12 N.J. inspection 138,725
5/12/12 LR caliper pin boot (Volvo # 30683788 = Wagner # H8217) 138,965
7/3/12 Spark Plugs (Volvo # 8642660), 1 Transmission drain/refill w/ Mobil 3309, adjust parking brake cable, Air filter (Puro # A35440), Clean A/F box 140,929
7/12/12 Cabin Air Filter (STP # CAF1739) 141,594
8/5/12 Mobil 1 oil/filter change, Rotate tires 143,380
10/8/12 L wiper blade 148,109
1/27/13 Mobil 1 oil/filter change, rotate tires (38/37.5) 151,122
2/7/13 Install 4 Viking Snow Tech 215-55-16 (restored 2/18 @ 151,701 = 207) 151,494
2/22/13 2 Cooper CS4 Touring (rear) 152,043
4/5/13 20 oz. Techron Concentrate 153,711
5/22/13 Valuecraft VCB-16 Rear wiper blade 155,683
7/16/13 Mobil 1 oil/filter change, Clean under-hood ground terminals 158,691
7/29/13 R&R Upstream Oxygen Sensor (Volvo # 9497252 = Denso # 234-9019) 159,227
8/2/13 1 Transmission drain/refill w/Mobil 3309 w/LubeGard 60902 (10 oz. RED bottle) 159,536
9/5/13 Replace RF Mud Flap, Remove RF headlight socket to “Hard Wire” lamp 161,702
9/6/13 R&R Front Struts (Sachs Supertouring 554046)-boots-stops, Sway Bar Links (IPD) 161,799
9/10/13 2 Continental ContiProContact 95T (rear), Cabin Air Filter (DW-45508) 162,009
9/14/13 Replace Fuel Cap (Stant #10834) 162,240
10/21/13 Mobil 1 oil/filter change, P/S line clamp (Volvo # 3921999), LF H7 bulb, Remove LF socket to “Hard Wire” lamp 165,715
12/11/13 Install snows (restore 12/18 @ 168,925 = 475 mi.), 20 oz. Techron Concentrate 168,450
1/1/14 Install snows (restore 3/7 @ 171,515 = 2,268 mi.) 169,247
3/25/14 2 5W5 license plate bulbs, Clean lenses (Volvo # 989795 = Wagner 17177) 172,130
5/1/14 Mobil1 oil/filter change, Transmission drain/refill w/Wolf’s Head SUSTF w/ LubeGard (8 oz.), Spark Plugs (Volvo #8642660) 173,685
5/7/14 N.J. inspection 174,075
5/21/14 Air Filter (FRAM # CA 9073), Fuel filter (B&A # 043-1050), RF H7 bulb 174,944
11/5/14 R&L Control arms fitted w/ poly-bushings Deeza #VL-R101 (vert.), P.P.S. #61435971 (horiz.), R&L ball joints, RF axle bearing (FAG-801842D), R&L axles 177,396
11/25/14 Install snows (restore 11/30 @ 178,066 mi.= 161 mi.) 177,905
1/24/15 Install snows (restore 3/9 @ 181,434 mi.= 1,720 mi.) 179,714
2/21/15 12 oz. Techron Concentrate, Front wiper blades (24” + 22”) 180,505
3/23/15 Quaker State UDFS oil/filter change (Purolater L51315), 12 oz. Techron Conc. Transmission drain/refill w/MaxLife Dex/Merc-LV and LubeGard RED (4 oz.). 181,826
4/29/15 Cabin Air Filter (WIX 24818) 182,324
6/26/15 LR Brake bulb (1156), LF Parking/turn signal bulb (1157A) 184,450
7/22/15 Battery, Alternator, Aux. belt, Tensioner (NAPA/Gates #38190), EVAP soft hoses replaced w/ silicone, clean purge valve 185,172
9/8/15 Install 2 Phillips H7+30 bulbs 188,216
10/6/15 Mobil1 Super synthetic oil/filter change (Purolater L51315}. Transmission drain/fill w/Mobil 3309. 189,513
1/18/16 2 ContinentalProContact 95T (front) see 9/10/13) 192,936
1/22/16 Install snows (restore 1/29 @ 193,294 = 173 mi.) 193,121
4/8/16 NJ inspection, LF P'k'g/turn signal bulb (1157A) Rear Wiper blade (Bosch #40716A) 193,999

There's more. I sold the car in Dec. 2016 w/198,600 mi.

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Not yet but soon to replace the flex downpipe (for the second time) so just made a video with the part I ordered and a small talk


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Georgeandkira wrote: 05 Dec 2017, 09:04 Re a set of alloys, BRIEFLY:

Subject to what you want, of course; get a set of Lysithia or Musca wheels.

Why, you ask? They're 15". They take a taller 65 series tire which is better for our crumby roads.
I had 'em (Lysitias) on my '02 and a neighbor had the Muscas on an '05 S60. 15" rubber shows up more often on "Clearances".

Echos, taking a 205-55-16 tire, are on my '07. Not a huge difference but noticeable.
This 16" size listed above is immensely popular. A guy working where I have gotten tires on clearance said my 16" size would NEVER be on clearance because it fits so many vehicles.
Thanks, this was more or less my plan, but I didn't know the specific names of the rim models. I'm glad to see there are no downsides to staying in the 15" size. Can I just get any Volvo 15" wheels that I like the look and price of, or are there differences in offset, etc to be concerned with?
COINCIDENCE DEPT.: Before I found my '02 I test drove a manual.
The bloke said he was going back to Russia (his work having ended Hackensack). I took my test drive with his wife and kids in the car so I figured he was telling the truth but there was something incomplete about his pitch so I passed.
I was close to passing because the seller and his story were both full of various red flags, but the car seemed so far ahead of everyting else in the price range, I was willing to take a leap. I'm glad in the end he was (seemingly) lying only to cover up that he's dealing cars without a license.

Nice maintenance list!

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Post by abscate »

Ill guess the guy bought it at auction, thought he could flip it fast, got crunched with market reality, and sold the alloys to recoup his 'investment'

If he takes six months to sell a 1500 car, he won't be flipping too long

The car hasn't been painted, those notes are just informational.

I think your car is that very cool green blue, not the Barents Blue I have - Ive been fooled by this colour in pictures before. Jim knows the actual name of that paint - Dirk has it on one of his cars.
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Mistake...
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Picked up (2) used hood struts from LQK junkyard for $13. Came off of a 2005 V70. Are "stronger" than my originals from 2001. Installed them and now there is no issue with holding the hood all the way up, or even holding it slightly closed, even with the cooler weather.

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Got to find the color code and year of fabrication


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Post by Georgeandkira »

Thanks for the data plate video. My '07 has no such plate on the fender.

Come 2007 Volvo put small, soft black stickers in the rear door jambs-one on each side.

Professional body guys couldn't find the old style plate and told me my car must've been side trashed and rebuilt very well.

Gotta laugh!
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Post by abscate »

Quick note on that SRS plate - the sticker used to say replace the SRS after 10 years, but there was a TSB that said this was no longer necessary.
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