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bright
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Joined: 14 October 2009
Year and Model: 1995 960
Location: Too Hot, USA

Low Evaluation of ipdusa.com

Post by bright »

IPD is a venerable parts source on the West Coast. However, I have had an increasingly frustrating time with them as I have ordered more and more parts.

First is the their image from their page for shopping. The 900 series caption/picture is taken directly from their website and show below.
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It looks pretty obvious that hey, this is where you get 900 series stuff. However, when you read into the finer print you see that they exclude the 1995 960. Then after this they state it includes all variants of the 900 series. It's a bit confusing.

I have made several purchases and found that some of the parts have not fit. Upon consultation it was decided that some would not fit, and others should be fine. I have yet to attempt installation of the indicated good parts.

examples:

Transmission Filter and Flush Kit:
I purchased the transmission filter kit listed in the proper category. I also bought the transmission flush kit. After speaking with them I learned that neither will work. It turns out that they are for the 940s, but they are listed in the 960 category as well. A update is now listed on the website.

Incorrect Expansion Tank:
I also purchased an expansion tank for my car. My car comes with a coolant level sensor. The tank sent does not have a sensor. It was agreed that the tank for all Volvo's listed in this category should have the sensor. I imagine that a wrong tank was sent.

Timing Kit Confusion and Bad Advice:
My car is a 1995 and is registered as so. The build info on the VIN plate lists it as being manufactured in 1994, which is normal. IPD lists two different kits for a 94 or a 95. There is a difference between the kits for each year. I decided that I had better find out definitively.

The first tech I spoke with about a timing kit stated that Volvo was notorious for being inconsistent about what engine series went into what car (!?!?!) I had, and sent pictures of the engine model and serial number on the timing belt cover. I also sent pictures of the VIN plate on my car as well. This particular tech stuck to this story, and told me that I had to take the car apart to figure out which one was correct. I asked him to speak with someone else, but he declined to do so. My guess is that he had no idea. Perhaps he did not want others to know.

After several weeks I spoke with a different tech. I gave him the same information and pictures. He was confident of which kit I had to use. I bought it and it worked fine.

Recommendations
IPD needs to make disclaimers much more clear. There are very few 1995 960 owners. And we would represent a very small percentage of all business. But it does generate frustration and lack of future purchases due to unclear parts matching.

IPD should request that owners of unusual cars contact them for ordering to avoid problems.

IPD could create an application that automatically screens for conflicts between parts ordered for particular cars. Other online stores have such as system. It may be prohibitively expensive though.

IPD techs need to be encouraged to seek advice from other techs if they are unclear on applications of parts. There is no shame in asking for a confirmation. However, it does hurt business if bad advice leads to customer dissatisfaction (or car complications.)

Overall:
I would give IPD a 2 out of 5 rating. This includes tech support (2.5 out of 5), parts accuracy (2 out of 5), and accuracy of website information (1 of 5).
Many Thanks,
Bright

1995 960 Sedan

jasonaileo
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Post by jasonaileo »

Bright,
I agree with your points about IPD. If anyone is interested, open up IPDs website and navigate to the 1st Gen V70s and then to the engine mounts. You'll find that IPD offers an OEM and a Scantech version of the subframe bushings. The detailed photo of both versions are identical stock photos but IPD has blurred out the word Scantech stamped in the rubber for the OEM photo. I'm not saying you'll get a Scantech part if you order the OEM, but couldn't they just take a picture of the OEM one and post it. That would give me more assurance that I was getting the OEM part I would pay a premium for.
If you are happy with Scantech, you can get the identical part from eEuroparts for $14.90 and not pay $25.90 from IPD. Thats $11 cheaper for the exact same part. Your car has four of these (3 are the same, one is slightly different) but the savings on the exact same parts would be almost $50.

bright
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Year and Model: 1995 960
Location: Too Hot, USA

Post by bright »

That is frustrating.

On one hand, Scantech is often an OEM maker for several companies.

On the other, they should not take a Scantech picture and rub out the maker of the part and then call it OEM. It just doesn't feel right, and you end up with people on BB's talking about it.

I've ordered with PartsGeek.com and I can't complain. You can see my evaluation of them so far. I like to let people know what is good and what is bad. I also try to be unemotional. I was told that I had purchased parts for a 940 (which is not indicated anywhere.) I guess it is lesson learned for both of us.

I've also ordered from eeuroparts.com and always got what I paid for. I am happy with them.

Thanks for the honest and flame-less evaluation. I've seen other boards on other cars start these supper bitter threads.

Thanks,
bright
Many Thanks,
Bright

1995 960 Sedan

ChiNorm
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Post by ChiNorm »

I have never recieved anything other than outstanding service from IPD. On the rare occasion where there was an issue or question, a phone call resolved things very quick. I would suggest calling them if there are any uncertainties.

Regarding the copy in the catalogue, writing copy is not as easy as it looks. Things happen, humans are involved. Any questions or concerns ought to be confirmed with a phone call before ordering parts.

Scott Hart once credited me for labor costs associated with IPD bushings that failed on an old 760 I used to drive. I don't know of any other auto parts vendor that provides that level of accountability.

While I understand that the OP is annoyed, I suspect that there are two sides to this issue.

bright
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Post by bright »

:?:

I addressed all of the points (and plenty more) that you stated in this reply. I have wrote my evaluation dispassionately. It is an evaluation of their goods and services.

If you note, I had called their service representatives several times. The incidence that troubled me the most was the timing belt kit. That sort of advice could be a car killer. It is also indicative of some of the staff are poorly trained. A different tech was able to answer my question with immediacy and confidence.

I also had ordered a correct part with the correct shipping number listed. Upon arrival the wrong part arrived. Again, this is an issue of training.

I am polite and respectful person. I understand that we all have difficult jobs. I found it odd that there was no offer (or even mention) to ship the items back.

These problems occurred over a series of orders until the 95 960 error was defined in the small print. It is the responsibility of the writer to ensure accuracy in a manual. I wrote technical papers in the past for pharmaceutical industries, and I had to get the information correct. Part of the job. I should also point out that I wrote my recommendations very much in a technical manner.

There is also the responsibility of the merchant. We mostly no longer live in the Caveat Emptor model of commerce.

I never denigrated nor attacked IPD. I gave my experiences, with a list of ways to improve their performance. Most members would flame under a similar situation.

I believe strongly in forwarding both excellent and poor experiences to anyone who has questions. See my evaluation for partsgeek.com

Bright

What is an "OP?" It doesn't sound like a nice thing.
Many Thanks,
Bright

1995 960 Sedan

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Post by Ozark Lee »

What is an "OP?" It doesn't sound like a nice thing.
That would be you, the Original Poster. It is a very neutral term.

With regard to IPD I have used them for many things in the past, mostly wheels and stuff back when I had my 740s and some specialty tools for the 850s. I find them a bit pricey on many parts but then again they have many parts that you really can't get anywhere else. They are fully honest in my book.

My 2 cents,

...Lee
'94 850 N/A 5 speed
'96 Platinum Edition Turbo
Previous:
1999 V70XC - Nautic Blue - Totaled while parked.
1999 V70XC - RIP - Wrecked Parts Car.
1998 S70 T5
1996 850 N/A
1989 740 GLT
1986 740 GLT
1972 142 Grand Luxe

bright
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Year and Model: 1995 960
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Post by bright »

Thanks for the clarification of "OP."

I described IPD as venerable. I do know that they have been around for a long time. It's why I was so surprised to the sheer amount of errors in shipping.

I was shocked by the lack of competence of the one tech.

I just found another incorrect part.. The thermostat I purchased is incorrect. I was stung yet again (presumably) by the 95 960 exception :-(

It would be nice if they had a special category under the 9XX for this model. Or a larger warning to call them directly.

After the last conversation I haven't bothered to call and ask for a refund. I just chalk it up to a (expensive) learning lesson.

Maybe they don't have a lot of experience on 9XX series?

Thanks,
Bright
Many Thanks,
Bright

1995 960 Sedan

ChiNorm
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Post by ChiNorm »

May I suggest that you email or call Scott Hart? I have found him to be truly dedicated to customer satisfaction. If an employee of his provided inaccurate information, I am sure he would want to know.

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