Camshaft timing adjustment
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azli
Camshaft timing adjustment
Can we play with the cam timing to achieve more power .If so how to do it .tq
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adrianpike
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Yes.
To actually get more peak power, you'll need some dyno time to adjust, measure, adjust, measure, as any power gain won't be signifigant enough for the ass-dyno to measure.
You can also adjust cam timing to move the powerband around in the rev range, within reason. I'm running a K cam a few degrees in advance to move the powerband down a bit, as I'm not super anxious to wind my tired B21 past 6K anymore.
You can get an adjustable cam gear from iPD, and Dale Walmsley (245gti on turbobricks) sells semi-adjustable gears that give you advance or retard in set increments. If you lurk around for a while, a used MVP or iPD one might become available.
To actually get more peak power, you'll need some dyno time to adjust, measure, adjust, measure, as any power gain won't be signifigant enough for the ass-dyno to measure.
You can also adjust cam timing to move the powerband around in the rev range, within reason. I'm running a K cam a few degrees in advance to move the powerband down a bit, as I'm not super anxious to wind my tired B21 past 6K anymore.
You can get an adjustable cam gear from iPD, and Dale Walmsley (245gti on turbobricks) sells semi-adjustable gears that give you advance or retard in set increments. If you lurk around for a while, a used MVP or iPD one might become available.
-Adrian Pike, Adrian Technologies
'78 16 Valve 245DL

'78 16 Valve 245DL

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Guest
Thank you for the great reply...it does clear my doubt. Actually I have a 850 and trying to get a max power band in the lower to mid range area. I'm not into the 5000 to 6000rpm's.
Just to confirm do I need to invrease both cam timing or just the intake.I've tried the intake bout 3deg adv and exhaust 0 quite good but at 5000rpm the engine is like a rocket to 6500rpm.
would appreciate much your help on this and small hop ups or tuning just to have the extra power.
Thank you again
Just to confirm do I need to invrease both cam timing or just the intake.I've tried the intake bout 3deg adv and exhaust 0 quite good but at 5000rpm the engine is like a rocket to 6500rpm.
would appreciate much your help on this and small hop ups or tuning just to have the extra power.
Thank you again
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azli
any one knows how to squeeze the extra power from camshaft timing adjustment for my 850NA 1996 engine....pls help many thanks
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adrianpike
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Step by step:azli wrote:any one knows how to squeeze the extra power from camshaft timing adjustment for my 850NA 1996 engine....pls help many thanks
-Strap it to a dyno.
-Make a baseline run.
-Adjust cams.
-Run, record power output.
-Repeat.
If you want to do it the ghetto way, just adjust and use the butt-dyno.
-Adrian Pike, Adrian Technologies
'78 16 Valve 245DL

'78 16 Valve 245DL

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MadeInJapan
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Slater over on VolvoSpeed has made a "wheel" that you slip over the cam shaft to set the timing. You might want to check it out: http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/index.ph ... opic=33956
Regards,
MIJ
Regards,
MIJ
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azli
gee thans a alot.... very sorry my pc got a bad virus..so now got a new one a toshiba lap...wow...
Just gone thru the web site ...where do I get one??
can you just tell me for a NA what's the optimum setting please ?
I also did tweak on the distributor timing , we have it advanve by 6 degrees ...you can actually hear a bit of a knock when you fire up the engine..any other suggestions guys?
Just to check whats the top speed of the 850-NA mine I tried up to 197...
Thanks in advance
Just gone thru the web site ...where do I get one??
can you just tell me for a NA what's the optimum setting please ?
I also did tweak on the distributor timing , we have it advanve by 6 degrees ...you can actually hear a bit of a knock when you fire up the engine..any other suggestions guys?
Just to check whats the top speed of the 850-NA mine I tried up to 197...
Thanks in advance
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White850Turbo
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You have to PM Slater on VS. He sends detailed instructions along with optimal settings for both the turbo and N/A engines. What octane fuel are you running? You shouldn't be knocking; detonation kills rods on these cars.azli wrote:gee thans a alot.... very sorry my pc got a bad virus..so now got a new one a toshiba lap...wow...
Just gone thru the web site ...where do I get one??
can you just tell me for a NA what's the optimum setting please ?
I also did tweak on the distributor timing , we have it advanve by 6 degrees ...you can actually hear a bit of a knock when you fire up the engine..any other suggestions guys?
Just to check whats the top speed of the 850-NA mine I tried up to 197...
Thanks in advance
-Sean
1995 850 Turbo (Extensively Modded)
1998 S70 T5 (Almost Stock)
1995 850 Turbo (Extensively Modded)
1998 S70 T5 (Almost Stock)
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azli
ok I'm using 97ron
just to check do we adv the intake more than the exhaust or vice-versa ...any suggestions...sorry I can't get thru Slater
just to check do we adv the intake more than the exhaust or vice-versa ...any suggestions...sorry I can't get thru Slater
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