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850 will not start when cold

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1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
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1997 - 2000 V70-XC
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tjg
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850 will not start when cold

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Our 1995 850T will not start when temp goes below 45, will start if you leave key on for 10 to 15 minutes. Codes read on module A-2 the results are 3-1-5,2-3-2 & 4-3-3, do not know if any of these are at fault. It's getting colder, so we would like to solve this problem soon.
1995 940 TURBO SW
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Ozark Lee
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Post by Ozark Lee »

None of your codes point to a problem that preclude the car from starting.

3-1-5 is an EVAP error. It could be a s simple as the gas cap was not tightened at some point.

2-3-2 is a long term idle fuel trim error - usually that is a bad vacuum line.

4-3-3 is a rear knock sensor signal error.

I would start by clearing the codes and then seeing what comes back.

Your starting problem sounds like a fuel pump relay going bad. This is the time of year where we always get a rash of these problems. The electrolytic capacitors in the relay age to a point where they get very temperature sensitive. You can test the hypothesis by just bypassing the relay with a jumper wire (or even a paper clip) between the socket positions associated with pins 15 and 87 on the fuel pump relay. The relay is located under the cover for the fuse box and it is relay 103.

If the relay turns out to be bad you can fix it with a couple of bucks worth of Radio Shack parts if you know how to solder or replace it. I think they cost around $50.00 for a new one but the auto parts stores all seem to want to sell you the wrong one. When you ask for a fuel pump relay they always bring up the master fuel system relay which is completely different.

...Lee
'94 850 N/A 5 speed
'96 Platinum Edition Turbo
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1999 V70XC - Nautic Blue - Totaled while parked.
1999 V70XC - RIP - Wrecked Parts Car.
1998 S70 T5
1996 850 N/A
1989 740 GLT
1986 740 GLT
1972 142 Grand Luxe

tjg
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Joined: 26 December 2008
Year and Model: 940 1995,XC70 1999
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Post by tjg »

Lee jumped the relay and it started right up with temp in the low 50's, will try later tonight when in low 30's, will let you know. Also note that you have '99 V70XC, ours need rebuilt transmission. My tranny man can not find all the part, I found levelten.com do you any other sources for parts or rebuilt? Thanks Jeff
1995 940 TURBO SW
1995 850 TURBO SW
1999 V70CX
Previous
1993 940 TURBO(CRUSHED BY TREE)
1989 240(CRUSHED BY SAME TREE)
1972 142 SOLD

Ozark Lee
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Post by Ozark Lee »

I can't really help you on a parts source much beyond the shift solenoids. If things get beyond that most of us just get a used transmission from a junk yard or a place like Erie-VoVo or Tom's. Used is always a crap shoot of sorts but both Erie and Toms have a good reputation for not selling junk.

...Lee
'94 850 N/A 5 speed
'96 Platinum Edition Turbo
Previous:
1999 V70XC - Nautic Blue - Totaled while parked.
1999 V70XC - RIP - Wrecked Parts Car.
1998 S70 T5
1996 850 N/A
1989 740 GLT
1986 740 GLT
1972 142 Grand Luxe

tjg
Posts: 12
Joined: 26 December 2008
Year and Model: 940 1995,XC70 1999
Location: MARYLAND
Has thanked: 3 times

Post by tjg »

Just to close this link the car starts right up below 30. Will head to the bone yard this weekend. Thanks Jeff
1995 940 TURBO SW
1995 850 TURBO SW
1999 V70CX
Previous
1993 940 TURBO(CRUSHED BY TREE)
1989 240(CRUSHED BY SAME TREE)
1972 142 SOLD

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