Cracking upper engine mount bushing, is it safe to drive?

Post by **xHeart** » 22 Apr 2012, 08:29

It is visible to my untrained eye.

Is this the replacement part MVS recommends www.ipdusa.com/products/7355/112504-upper-engine-mount?

Any suggestion for the one on firewall?

Repairs never end :lol:

Post by **jblackburn** » 22 Apr 2012, 08:39

Sure, it'll just vibrate a whole heck of a lot.

See the instructions for replacing the mount - basically you need to saw out the old one and then freeze and lube up the new one with dish soap to press it in.

Check your lower "front" engine mount as well - you'll need to jack up the front, remove the right tire, and peel back the fender liner. Look for the mount to the right of the crankshaft pulley to see if it is ripped or collapsed.

Post by **xHeart** » 22 Apr 2012, 13:21

jblackburn wrote:Sure, it'll just vibrate a whole heck of a lot.

It does when in Drive. I can feel it on steering, and paddle.

: the upper mount bushing from passenger 's...; MVS_4081.jpg (397.62 KiB) Viewed 8641 times

: ...another view from driver's...; MVS_4077.jpg (410.2 KiB) Viewed 8641 times

The cold start engine is louder and heavy for a minute or so, but then it quiets down to normal and crispier sound.

jblackburn wrote:Check your lower "front" engine mount as well - you'll need to jack up the front, remove the right tire, and peel back the fender liner. Look for the mount to the right of the crankshaft pulley to see if it is ripped or collapsed.

: the lower engine mount, below the crank...; MVS_4083.jpg (499.75 KiB) Viewed 8641 times

This is what I think you are pointing to J, any sign of...?

Post by **rspi** » 22 Apr 2012, 13:28

Those mounts look ok to me. You haven't seen torn. Here is a pic of a front mount that is bad. As for the upper mount, they tear clear through. That one has a while to go.

Post by **rspi** » 22 Apr 2012, 13:30

Here is a bad upper mount:

Post by **JRL** » 22 Apr 2012, 15:04

Correct
That upper mount is not broken or torn in any way

Post by **erikv11** » 22 Apr 2012, 16:53

A broken upper mount doesn't change much as far as vibrations transmitting to the cabin. The main difference when that mount breaks is it causes the engine to lurch back and forth on turns, makes the car feel like it is handling poorly.

And +1, those mounts look to all be in pretty good shape, for sure the upper one.

Post by **cn90** » 22 Apr 2012, 21:42

You have 3 options:

1. Volvo Mount (maybe made by Corteco or Lemforder, not sure).

2. Febi (I don't know much about reliability of Febi but Febi has a good name).

3. Polyurethane bushing.
I use the Poly bushing from IPD at 50K in 2003.
Nine years later still good.
There is however a very very very slightly more vibration at idle.
When driving, it is fine.
It does not bother me but may bother some people.
If so, then use Volvo mount.

Post by **erikv11** » 22 Apr 2012, 21:48

cn90 maybe you saw the title but didn't actually read the thread?

That upper mount is totally fine, I wouldn't replace it.

Post by **cn90** » 22 Apr 2012, 21:52

Actually, the pic posted by xHeart showed some cracks already.
This happened to me in 2003, when I took the factory upper mount out, it broke a part.
Although xHeart mount does not look too bad yet, it can cause vibration.