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Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

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sntee
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OH NO!!!

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HELP!!

Decided to go mad and check my fluid levels today.

Wishing that I hadn't though. Instead of the usual bluey green coolant in my header tank, I've got horrible brown gunk!

I know that it probably means that my head gasket has blown, but I was hoping that someone out there could tell me otherwise. When this has happened on other cars I've owned, it usually goes that other way, i.e. water into the oil.

If it is the head gasket, can anyone tell me how difficult a job it is to change them on this car (1996 850 T5). Am I gonna get half way through it then find I need some special tool, only available at authorised Volvo dealerships.
And do I HAVE to get the head machined before I refit it?

Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
1996 850 T5 Auto Estate 165k miles and counting...... (or should that be "and hoping" ;-) )



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Post by MadeInJapan »

Did someone top off your fluids recently? If they mixed the orange coolant it could cause the color to turn brownish. Are you getting white smoke from your exhaust?
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sntee
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Post by sntee »

No, I haven't even taken the cap off the coolant tank for 12 months.

Anyway, the stuff that's collected under the cap now is like brown butter.... classic oil / water mix.

But, yes I am getting occasional white smoke (I posted about it a few days ago actually)
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Post by billofdurham »

Certainly appears to be the head gasket.

It is a fairly straightforward operation, no special tools and no need to have the head machined. New bolts are a must when replacing the head.

Download the manual at the top of this forum, courtesy of MadeInJapan. It will help.

Bill.
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1996 850GLT 2.5 20v Estate Manual.
1995 Peugeot Boxer 2.5Tdi Autosleeper.
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1987 744GLE, Manual, Green.
1991 960 3.0 24v, Auto, Silver.
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Post by mastertech »

Wait, before you do cyl head test your auto trany cooler, it is built in to the radiator. I've seen it before where bad cooler coil allows trany fluid to mix with coolant.

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Post by sntee »

I did wonder about that myself. I'll check it out tomorrow, before I start fitting the new gasket and other bits that just arrived from GSF :x

One other thing that someone out there might be able to help me with....

My wonderful Haynes manual includes a "Tool Tip" showing how to make a Camshaft Locking Tool out of angle-iron and a couple of strips of flat steel bar.

Unfortunately, in true Haynes style, it neglects to tell you how thick the steel bar needs to be to fit snuggly into the slots in the cams.

Does anybody out there know this, or have they got one of these tools that they could measure? I could really do with finding out soon, so that I can get the material before I start taking my car apart and rendering myself immobile.
1996 850 T5 Auto Estate 165k miles and counting...... (or should that be "and hoping" ;-) )



"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!



If it is broke......... keep goin till it falls apart"

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Post by Sweet Wagon »

sntee wrote:My wonderful Haynes manual includes a "Tool Tip" showing how to make a Camshaft Locking Tool out of angle-iron and a couple of strips of flat steel bar.
Not sure if you are referring to this tool or not: http://ipdusa.com/ProductsCat.aspx?Cate ... RootID=629

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Post by sntee »

Thanks for the quick reply, but the tool I'm talking about is for holding the cams in place during removal of the cylinder head.

The idea is that you attach the two steel plates to the angle iron. The angle iron bolts to the side of the upper head section and the steel plates locate into slots in the right-hand end of the cams. This stops the cams rotating and allows you to lift the head and the cams in one go (provided you have supported the other end with another one of Haynes' Home-made tools).
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Post by Sweet Wagon »

Sorry, don't know where to find that one. I'm no huge fan of opening up an engine (lack of experience), so I probably never paid attention to that section of my manual.

Sorry I couldn't be more help.

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Post by MadeInJapan »

Actually, this guy here sells the cam alignment/holding tool. Although a savings over what Volvo wants, still a bit expensive: https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/chat/p ... php?t=7875
'98 S70 T5 Emrld Grn Met/Beige Tons of Upgrades Mobil-1
'04 V70 2.5T Red/Taupe Some Upgrades Mobil-1
'07 S40 T5 AWD 6 speed manual! Silver/Black Stage1 Heico & Elevate
'07 S60 2.5T Blue/Taupe- my kid's Volvo

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