Timing belt install questions
Visited my mechanic yesterday re: TB, pulleys, waterpump etc for my 2006 XC70. He said "I'll get you a parts/ labor estimate, but why not do it yourself? You have skills". (which I do!!!). Reading the tutorials, I came across a few snags: I do not have pneumatic tools, thus I cannot remove the crank pulley (Do I have to?). I don't have a means to secure the two cam pulleys so they don't move...suggestions? Any special tools or warnings that you all can provide? Is the waterpump an 'in and out' deal? Assistance please, or the mechanic gets the job, and I have to dig deep in the wallet to pay him!
-
vtl
- Posts: 4936
- Joined: 16 Aug 2012, 13:35
- Year and Model: 2005 XC70
- Location: Boston
- Has thanked: 130 times
- Been thanked: 686 times
Rent an electric 8 amps impact wrench, it's was sufficient for crank pulley on both my P2s.
While old t-belt is still on, do a few marks with white corrector fluid on t-belt, cam pulleys and crankshaft, then remove the belt and copy the marks on a new belt. Install new belt making sure those marks do align. Fix new belt on cam pulleys with paper clips. You generally don't need cam lock tool for this job.
If you didn't do your PCV - do it, or at least have seals visually inspected while you are there.
While old t-belt is still on, do a few marks with white corrector fluid on t-belt, cam pulleys and crankshaft, then remove the belt and copy the marks on a new belt. Install new belt making sure those marks do align. Fix new belt on cam pulleys with paper clips. You generally don't need cam lock tool for this job.
If you didn't do your PCV - do it, or at least have seals visually inspected while you are there.
- oragex
- Posts: 5347
- Joined: 24 May 2013, 06:20
- Year and Model: S60 2003
- Location: Canada
- Has thanked: 102 times
- Been thanked: 352 times
- Contact:
Contrary to many other brands, you don't need to do the water pump with the first timing belt. This is what most people do, and saves money because aftermarket water pumps are terrible and the Volvo one isn't cheap.
Several Volvo Repair Videos https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... s0FSVSOT_c
-
MarcM
- Posts: 183
- Joined: 23 Sep 2015, 18:52
- Year and Model: 2005 S60 2.5T AWD
- Location: Monadnock Region, New Hampshire
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 3 times
If you're anywhere near New Hampshire... I have the pulley securing tool you could borrow. Never used it, but have to do the same thing eventually. One of those situations of "get what you need to do it"... then "oh, not the issue".AlanS wrote:I don't have a means to secure the two cam pulleys so they don't move...suggestions?
2005 S60 2.5T AWD
IPD mods:
IPD HD PVC intercooler coupler/upper, HD Subframe poly inserts
ProPartsSweden HD top mount square mount, PPS lower torque rod & control arms.
IPD mods:
IPD HD PVC intercooler coupler/upper, HD Subframe poly inserts
ProPartsSweden HD top mount square mount, PPS lower torque rod & control arms.
If I pick up a cam lock tool (as they are not expensive), do I not eliminate the fear of the cams moving? This seems to me, if I lock the cams, mark the crank pulley, then it is kinda foolproof in lining everything up. The issue I had with my S40 was the CVV cam pulley moved when I took the belt off, and even with the mark, it was not clear if I was a tooth or two off on the belt (I obviously worked it out), but always felt that locking the cams would have solved any issue. BTW...no where near N.H....I'm on Long Island, NY...thank you anyway
-
MarcM
- Posts: 183
- Joined: 23 Sep 2015, 18:52
- Year and Model: 2005 S60 2.5T AWD
- Location: Monadnock Region, New Hampshire
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 3 times
Norm is to put crank at TDC mark and cams at their marks (using notches in cover) and lock the pulleys with the tool. Technically, you don't have to be at TDC and just simply lock cams and change belt, but if crank moves you're in trouble.
Yeah, tool is cheap. I buy oddball specialty tools for repairs on my cars. I figure if someone doesn't want to own a tool but needs it... loan it.
Yeah, tool is cheap. I buy oddball specialty tools for repairs on my cars. I figure if someone doesn't want to own a tool but needs it... loan it.
2005 S60 2.5T AWD
IPD mods:
IPD HD PVC intercooler coupler/upper, HD Subframe poly inserts
ProPartsSweden HD top mount square mount, PPS lower torque rod & control arms.
IPD mods:
IPD HD PVC intercooler coupler/upper, HD Subframe poly inserts
ProPartsSweden HD top mount square mount, PPS lower torque rod & control arms.
-
IdahoBob
- Posts: 97
- Joined: 16 Jan 2011, 21:33
- Year and Model: XC70 02, 04 & 08
- Location: Whitefish, Montana
- Has thanked: 1 time
- Been thanked: 4 times
I made a cam lock, similar to the old (they don't sell it anymore) IPD lock. Get a 1" wide steel strip, about 1/8" thick. Cut off tow pieces, each approx. 2 3/4" long. Drill a 3/8" hole through the center of both. Get a 3/8" bolt, 4-5" long. Rotate the crank to the proper position. Go another 1/4 turn past and then turn backwards until it's properly aligned again. This takes the slack out the gear train. Slide the bars between the cam gear team, top and bottom, pass the bolt through the holes, cinch it up, and your cam is locked. I've done 5 of these belt changes now, and this has saved me several hours. I learned after needing to pull the whole thing apart again on two of them. One tooth off will run fine (even four teeth off will run!), and then it starts throwing codes...
You can buy an Aisin water pump. It's what is sold as a Volvo part. I've bought three of them that still had the shadow of the "Volvo" logo in the casting. I agree with the poster above who said to not use aftermarket pumps. The only leaker I have seen is an aftermarket pump. Replacing the pump is really simple, but get a set of new bolts, with the sealer on them (IPD sells them with the Aisin pump). The bolts go directly into the water jacket; so if the bolt isn't properly sealed you'll have a coolant leak.
And, get Volvo or Volvo-supplier other parts, the idler, the tensioner. On the aftermarket ones you can easily see that the springs aren't as beefy. If one of these breaks you engine is likely a goner.
And I agree with the poster who said an electric impact will get the crank nut off. Instead of renting I went to a pawn shop and just bought a decent used one for $30. It's also pretty handy for removing & starting lug nuts when pulling wheels.
The only time the electric wasn't enough was a pulley nut put on by the same shop that installed the aftermarket water pump. I broke several sockets, extensions and a breaker bar on that one. It wouldn't come off even with me bouncing on a 4' cheater bar. In the end I had to take a sawzall and cut a diagonal groove into one of the flats of the 30mm nut until I just saw the start of the thread on the crankshaft (yes, I was nervous). I was then able to squirt in some WD40, let it sit a minute, and hit it with the pawn shop impact. Off it came. Add having a spare 30mm crankshaft nut on hand (IPD) when you start this job.
You can buy an Aisin water pump. It's what is sold as a Volvo part. I've bought three of them that still had the shadow of the "Volvo" logo in the casting. I agree with the poster above who said to not use aftermarket pumps. The only leaker I have seen is an aftermarket pump. Replacing the pump is really simple, but get a set of new bolts, with the sealer on them (IPD sells them with the Aisin pump). The bolts go directly into the water jacket; so if the bolt isn't properly sealed you'll have a coolant leak.
And, get Volvo or Volvo-supplier other parts, the idler, the tensioner. On the aftermarket ones you can easily see that the springs aren't as beefy. If one of these breaks you engine is likely a goner.
And I agree with the poster who said an electric impact will get the crank nut off. Instead of renting I went to a pawn shop and just bought a decent used one for $30. It's also pretty handy for removing & starting lug nuts when pulling wheels.
The only time the electric wasn't enough was a pulley nut put on by the same shop that installed the aftermarket water pump. I broke several sockets, extensions and a breaker bar on that one. It wouldn't come off even with me bouncing on a 4' cheater bar. In the end I had to take a sawzall and cut a diagonal groove into one of the flats of the 30mm nut until I just saw the start of the thread on the crankshaft (yes, I was nervous). I was then able to squirt in some WD40, let it sit a minute, and hit it with the pawn shop impact. Off it came. Add having a spare 30mm crankshaft nut on hand (IPD) when you start this job.
Idaho Bob
67, 71, 85, 98 wagons (sold)
78 coupe (gave to mechanic, thanks!)
02, 04 (X2) & 08 XC70's
before that: 67 Sunbeam, several pre-68 VW's, '41 Buick, '42 Ford Jeep, and some boring stuff
67, 71, 85, 98 wagons (sold)
78 coupe (gave to mechanic, thanks!)
02, 04 (X2) & 08 XC70's
before that: 67 Sunbeam, several pre-68 VW's, '41 Buick, '42 Ford Jeep, and some boring stuff
-
- Similar Topics
- Replies
- Views
- Last post
-
- 21 Replies
- 5437 Views
-
Last post by viper69
-
- 2 Replies
- 5503 Views
-
Last post by jimmy57
-
- 23 Replies
- 18253 Views
-
Last post by jonesg
-
- 20 Replies
- 17857 Views
-
Last post by Hurtfeelings
-
- 4 Replies
- 1102 Views
-
Last post by GBS






