Login Register

Oil trap/breather box failure?

Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

Post Reply
beigg
Posts: 691
Joined: 22 September 2013
Year and Model: 850 97
Location: Est. Mi

Re: Oil trap/breather box failure?

Post by beigg »

n/a? or fi?
ugh smh 850 Turbo fridge

User avatar
erikv11
Posts: 11800
Joined: 25 July 2009
Year and Model: 850, V70, S60R, XC70
Location: Iowa
Has thanked: 292 times
Been thanked: 765 times

Post by erikv11 »

OP, what are you asking, for ideas about where the oil is leaking from? The bottom line on that question is always to clean the engine and then see where it gets wet with oil first - track it down. We cay try to help if you provide pictures =, but in the end it will likely come down to the previous point.

What do you think caught on fire, oil?

There was no EGR in 1998, so that's not an issue.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k

User avatar
erikv11
Posts: 11800
Joined: 25 July 2009
Year and Model: 850, V70, S60R, XC70
Location: Iowa
Has thanked: 292 times
Been thanked: 765 times

Post by erikv11 »

Ah OK I see, thanks.

When you did the PCV service, did you check the ports that drain oil back into the block? If they get clogged, then just changing the parts will not solve the positive crankcase pressure. That's one possibility.

EDIT: oh, another possibility: are you sure the hoses on top of the oil trap are not reversed? That can cause it, too.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k

User avatar
erikv11
Posts: 11800
Joined: 25 July 2009
Year and Model: 850, V70, S60R, XC70
Location: Iowa
Has thanked: 292 times
Been thanked: 765 times

Post by erikv11 »

You can check the routing of the two hoses on top of the oil trap without re-doing the whole thing. I would definitely check.

But yeah, if you did not clean out the ports into the block, or at least check them, then you probably do need to take it off and do that. Was the PCV really clogged before?
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k

tryingbe
Posts: 1893
Joined: 18 June 2009
Year and Model: None
Location: Mesa, AZ, USA
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 26 times

Post by tryingbe »

I had a MotoRad filler cap that leaks when it was brand new! Is the filler cap a Volvo one? Has the filler cap seal been changed?


I found with the older engines, even with new PCV parts, it is not enough. The stock PCV pipe from the separator to the intake is severely undersized for an older engine. Also, the hole at the heating element at the PTC valve is tiny, like smaller than 1/4 inch tiny. Both will restrict the flow of the crankcase gases.

To address those issues, here is what I do. Get the below parts.

A 3ft 5/8 oil compatible hose. Do not use silicone hose, as it will "sweat" oil. Do not use heatercore hose, it is not rated for oil, it will become soft and you'll have to replace it sooner. This is what I use. Buy 3, as it is sold by the foot.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291442927889?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

One 3/4 elbows from your local hardware store. (5/8 will be the wrong size!)

A 3 feet 3/16 inch or 1/4 inch vacuum hose to replace the small hose from the intake manifold to the PTC valve. I prefer silicone hose for this.

Optional, get 6 of this. I like their clamps.
https://www.ipdusa.com/products/4768/10 ... 12mm-width

Optional, wireloom to protect the hose.

Take a unibit and drill out the PTC valve holes to as big as you feel comfortable. I think I drilled mine out to about 1/2 inch.

Remove the intake manifold and replace that stock PCV hose, I cut a short hose and then use a 90 degree elbow, than a long hose to the PTC valve. Replace the vacuum hose to the intake manifold to the PTC valve with the new one. Then reinstall the intake manifold.

Image

Image

All the crankcase gas have to go thru that tiny PTC hole!!!
Image

Installed on car
Image

Image
85 GLH, 367 whp
00 Insight, 72 mpg

User avatar
theWIFES_S70
Posts: 1218
Joined: 24 July 2015
Year and Model: 1998 S70 base
Location: Queens, New York
Has thanked: 61 times
Been thanked: 36 times

Post by theWIFES_S70 »

Wow, this looks like an absolute necessity... (And cheaper than OEM...)
Retired:
1998 Volvo S70, N/A, 5-speed, 187K
2007 Volvo S40, 2.4i, 5-speed, 121K
2015 Volvo S60, T5, 85K

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post