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Scored an 98 S70...not running.

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Re: Scored an 98 S70...not running.

Post by E Showell »

Just in front of the rear axle on the passenger side is where the fuel filter is located. Might want to take a peek up there and see if there are any obvious leaks associated with the fuel filter. Other codes beyond just multiple misfires?
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E Showell wrote:Just in front of the rear axle on the passenger side is where the fuel filter is located. Might want to take a peek up there and see if there are any obvious leaks associated with the fuel filter. Other codes beyond just multiple misfires?
No other codes. The fluid that's dropping is water I stuck my hands in it several times it has a faint smell of coolant.
The abs light is on but no CEL or CL. I'm having a hard time posting the video. This would give you the full effect.
It was blowing a smoke screen.
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Can't think why water should be leaking from that area unless there is water leaking out from the rear floor area, or it is running along a chassis leg to the lowest point. Check the coolant hoses from the header tank and at the rear of the engine block on that side. If it was a wagon I might have said it was possibly windshield fluid leaking from the pipe work at the rear.

Only other place may be from the muffler, if the car is on a slope leaning to that side?

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Lots of white smoke from the tail pipe could definitely signify a headgasket breach.

Test the coolant for the presence of combustion gasses.
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Post by scot850 »

On the bright side the car has started. On the other side.... could be the head gasket, but at least now with it running it is easier to eliminate the things that are ok with it.

Let us know where that moisture was coming from.

Evan mentioned a load of smoke from the muffler, was it thick and white smoke?

If you are losing coolant then you know where it is going.......!

The picture of the dampness and the crap out of the muffler can just be condensation in the muffler system from lying for a while unused. Brown stuff is not normal though, black yes, but not brown (rust/oil?).

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Post by stephansvolvo »

E Showell wrote:Lots of white smoke from the tail pipe could definitely signify a headgasket breach.

Test the coolant for the presence of combustion gasses.
How do I do that? I smelled the coolant res and it smelled like fuel. Does that count? Ha ha
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scot850 wrote:On the bright side the car has started. On the other side.... could be the head gasket, but at least now with it running it is easier to eliminate the things that are ok with it.

Let us know where that moisture was coming from.

Evan mentioned a load of smoke from the muffler, was it thick and white smoke?

If you are losing coolant then you know where it is going.......!

The picture of the dampness and the crap out of the muffler can just be condensation in the muffler system from lying for a while unused. Brown stuff is not normal though, black yes, but not brown (rust/oil?).

Neil.
The smoke was thick and white. When your 6 year old is running through it saying you can't see me, you know it's thick, though he exaggerated a bit.
I won't have time to investigate more until Sunday.
I'll get under it check hoses, complete the compassion tests and I guess fill the system up. Would be okay to use straight water? If prefer not to keep throwing 14 bucks down the driveway.
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Post by abscate »

Water is fine for a test. You won't get the sweet smell test in the exhaust if you use water though. If it's that thick, it's pretty definitive for coolant if it's not acrid oil smoke
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With the caveat that I have never done this myself, I understand that auto parts stores sell kits that would allow you to check the coolant for the presence of exhaust gasses. I am envisioning some type of test strip that gets dipped in the coolant reservoir, but, like I've said, I've never done it so I don't know exactly what's involved.
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'99 V70 NA FWD Auto, dark blue (sold)
'99 S70 NA FWD Auto, black (sold and resurrected -- Don't cry for me Argentina . . . )
'07 S80 3.2 FWD Auto, Barents Blue Metallic
'06 V70 R AWD Auto, Sonic Blue Metallic (sold)
'04 XC70 Ruby Red Metallic (sold)
'95 855 auto (sold)
'86 245 manual (sold)
'05 V70 T5 M (totalled)
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'02 Honda Insight CVT
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Post by scot850 »

It is a cylinder that attaches to the top of the header tank and has a fluid in it that changes color when exhaust gas passes through it. Format of the equipment varies, but basically the same operation.

Neil.
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2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
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1993 850 GLT -Sold
1998 V70 XC - Sold
1997 Volvo 850 SE NA - Went to niece in California - Sold
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