Compare the wagons! P2 vs. P80

beigg · Post by **beigg** » 23 Nov 2016, 14:08

If you were comparing a 96 manual trans 850 wagon to the 05 manual V70 [fwd], where would you put them on a 1 to 10 scale? 10 being BEST to have.

I know the v70's had high auto failures and the dual mass is a complete massive waste of time. I'm concerned for those little parts that tend to take down the biggest wallet and time fight when it comes to repairs. As with everything I've had to do with the volvo's, the most shop time it ever sees is when it needs an alignment or if I need a collision shop estimate for unfortunate incidents...

Post by **misha** » 23 Nov 2016, 15:07

Automatic transmission on p2 v70 had issues only in first years of production.That said 2000 & early 2001 models.Most of 2001 and later models didn't had problems.

Post by **tryingbe** » 23 Nov 2016, 16:59

10 for 850 turbo manual wagon and 1 for 05 v70.

I'm slightly bias.

beigg · Post by **beigg** » 23 Nov 2016, 19:24

tryingbe wrote:10 for 850 turbo manual wagon and 1 for 05 V70.

I'm slightly bias.

lol

turbo wagon for turbo wagon tho. still a 1?

Post by **tryingbe** » 23 Nov 2016, 21:36

VVT is a 1
Stability Traction Control is a 1
OBDII is a 1
Occupant weight sensor is a 1
Dynamic Stability Traction Control is a 1
SERVICE REQUIRED light is a 1
Immobilizer is a 1
Internal salve cylinder is a 1

beigg · Post by **beigg** » 24 Nov 2016, 09:59

tryingbe wrote:VVT is a 1
Stability Traction Control is a 1
OBDII is a 1
Occupant weight sensor is a 1
Dynamic Stability Traction Control is a 1
SERVICE REQUIRED light is a 1
Immobilizer is a 1
Internal salve cylinder is a 1

Can't most of those "1"s be addresed with a pcm flash in the event the need for scheduled I/M is not required?

I thought the 2002+ had the ability for real time tuning/mapping?

beigg · Post by **beigg** » 24 Nov 2016, 10:04

My hugest issue with most of all late model vehicles is that they went to DBW and also leverage a lot off the BCM for system functionality and enabling user operability.

Post by **tryingbe** » 24 Nov 2016, 14:21

beigg wrote:
tryingbe wrote:VVT is a 1
Stability Traction Control is a 1
OBDII is a 1
Occupant weight sensor is a 1
Dynamic Stability Traction Control is a 1
SERVICE REQUIRED light is a 1
Immobilizer is a 1
Internal salve cylinder is a 1
Can't most of those "1"s be addresed with a pcm flash in the event the need for scheduled I/M is not required?

I thought the 2002+ had the ability for real time tuning/mapping?

When this happens, what are you going to do?

https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums ... 28#p423028

beigg · Post by **beigg** » 24 Nov 2016, 17:24

tryingbe wrote:
beigg wrote:
tryingbe wrote:VVT is a 1
Stability Traction Control is a 1
OBDII is a 1
Occupant weight sensor is a 1
Dynamic Stability Traction Control is a 1
SERVICE REQUIRED light is a 1
Immobilizer is a 1
Internal salve cylinder is a 1
Can't most of those "1"s be addresed with a pcm flash in the event the need for scheduled I/M is not required?

I thought the 2002+ had the ability for real time tuning/mapping?
When this happens, what are you going to do?

https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums ... 28#p423028

If it's aftermarket supported with flash software for 100% changes, I'd first start with dtc scanning and proceed to check voltage and amperage areas within the vehicles system. Then if needed, run the built in module tests from the software accounting it would have such features as most I am familiar with contain it.

Chances are that posters issue is alternator or battery (soon to be both) if that is happening to them out of random.

beigg · Post by **beigg** » 24 Nov 2016, 21:07

Why are the 01+ body styles so attractive yet high maintenance? It's like a hot super model that has a white castle diet. Looks good..... the mess, horrible mess!