Compare the wagons! P2 vs. P80

Post by **abscate** » 25 Nov 2016, 05:26

I love my 2005 9.5/10 for the quiet ride and gas mileage.

The 1999 makes up for it with that amazing seat

Post by **tryingbe** » 25 Nov 2016, 08:39

beigg wrote:Why are the 01+ body styles so attractive yet high maintenance? It's like a hot super model that has a white castle diet. Looks good..... the mess, horrible mess!

More parts = more point of failures.

beigg · Post by **beigg** » 25 Nov 2016, 09:55

Slightly more, but not drastically more when it comes to powertrain and drivetrain. Bells and whistles, yes, but those I would have to ignorantly not see with the comparison.

Post by **erikv11** » 25 Nov 2016, 10:19

beigg wrote:
tryingbe wrote:
beigg wrote:
Can't most of those "1"s be addresed with a pcm flash in the event the need for scheduled I/M is not required?

I thought the 2002+ had the ability for real time tuning/mapping?
When this happens, what are you going to do?

https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums ... 28#p423028
If it's aftermarket supported with flash software for 100% changes, I'd first start with dtc scanning and proceed to check voltage and amperage areas within the vehicles system. Then if needed, run the built in module tests from the software accounting it would have such features as most I am familiar with contain it.

Chances are that posters issue is alternator or battery (soon to be both) if that is happening to them out of random.

Well, luckily this is not powertrain and drivetrain. 01 transmissions aside, I don't think powertrain and drivetrain is where any increased maintenance comes from.

As an aside: if you have ideas what is going on over there, how about help out the OP with suggestions?

beigg · Post by **beigg** » 25 Nov 2016, 10:25

erikv11 wrote:
beigg wrote:
tryingbe wrote:
When this happens, what are you going to do?

https://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums ... 28#p423028
If it's aftermarket supported with flash software for 100% changes, I'd first start with dtc scanning and proceed to check voltage and amperage areas within the vehicles system. Then if needed, run the built in module tests from the software accounting it would have such features as most I am familiar with contain it.

Chances are that posters issue is alternator or battery (soon to be both) if that is happening to them out of random.
Well, luckily this is not powertrain and drivetrain. 01 transmissions aside, I don't think powertrain and drivetrain is where any increased maintenance comes from.

As an aside: if you have ideas what is going on over there, how about help out the OP with suggestions?

Looks like a few suggestions were given that matched my thoughts. Didn't feel my .02 was warranted.

Post by **precopster** » 25 Nov 2016, 16:35

In 5 years time most of you will be in a P2 or move to another Euro.....the inevitability of time.

By the way once you drive a P2 as a daily driver you will not want to go back to a P80

Post by **misha** » 25 Nov 2016, 16:46

P2 cars are pure beauty.

beigg · Post by **beigg** » 25 Nov 2016, 19:40

precopster wrote:By the way once you drive a P2 as a daily driver you will not want to go back to a P80

After driven one prior to having an 850, I can agree to that.

As the saying goes, "first one's free" .

beigg · Post by **beigg** » 25 Nov 2016, 19:41

misha wrote:P2 cars are pure beauty.

with or without white castles?

Post by **tryingbe** » 26 Nov 2016, 11:04

https://www.ipdusa.com/products/8497/11 ... e-assembly

The PCV pipe/hose is crap.

I'll stick with 98 or older. KThxBye.