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07 S60 2.5T AWD Shake/Play

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soulvoid1990
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Year and Model: 2007 S60 2.5T
Location: PA, US

07 S60 2.5T AWD Shake/Play

Post by soulvoid1990 »

Hello all! Been some time since I've needed to ask for help!

I sold my 850 :( and upgraded to a 2007 S60 2.5T AWD. Purchased with 99k miles and has 116k now. Love the car, good power, gas mileage, and the AWD has saved me more than once in my 2 hour daily commute, living in PA with this crazy weather. But I'm having a weird issue where it feels like play in the driveline/suspension, and I can't pinpoint where the issue is. So, little back story, I'll try to keep it short and not ramble.

As far as fluid services go, I don't know when anything was done. It was owned by former Volvo tech from the dealer I purchased it from, who left his wife drive it for a few months before they traded-in. I've done oil changes obviously, but nothing else. I've checked the basic fluids, power steering, coolant, etc, and it all seems fine, but I haven't looked at the AWD or Trans fluids. Something worth noting, this car had the engine replaced, by Volvo under warranty (I have the carfax for this), at 54k miles for an oil consumption issue. I have literally no issues with the engine losing fluid, power, or gas mileage in anyway right now. I get about 21-24mpg average depending on how late I am for work, so I'd say I'm good there.

I've had this car for exactly one year this month, when I bought it, I noticed there was a slight shake/play/whatever you wanna call it, even just idling through the parking lot. This happens at ALL speeds. Anywhere from 1-2mph all the way to 120+ (yes, I drive fast, but I'm safe about it :)) and there is a vibration at idle, more so when the car is warm. It was also giving me an issue starting once in a great awhile. Well both issues have gotten much worse. I learned today that the starting issue is both my Cam and Crank sensors going out, getting a P0336 at startup. Going to get them ordered and throw them on before I'm left sitting, but I mentioned this because I don't know if it could be related to the looseness in the car.

During the summer months, I replaced 3 of the engine mounts, upper and lower torque and the one near the passenger's side tire. No change at all in the vibration. So today I had it looked at by my local trusted mechanic (he's the only one I'd ever trust near my cars) and discovered that all 4 of my wheels have bends in the edges of them... Lovely, so the previous owner was pothole happy. Other than that, the car is solid. All of the rubbers are in good condition and not rotted, I even checked them out myself while he had it on the lift. (Control arms, lower engine mounts, ball joints/tie rods, axles, etc.)

Now, obviously some of the shake is going to come from 4 bent wheels (still pissed about that :x).. but I'm more worried about the sloppy play feeling at low speeds. I know you guys can't help much without seeing the car, but I'll give a few examples to try and help understand what I mean. When pulling up to a stop sign that is on a slight hill, if I'm having to coast at a low speed waiting for a line of cars in front of me, when I get back on the gas a slight amount after coasting, it feels like there's play. The worst is when I have to turn into or out of a parking spot. If I have to turn the wheel all the way, either left or right (or even somewhat close to all the way), there is an extreme amount of play, and it feels like a tire is going to fall off or like a tire is rubbing something (it's not hitting anything though, I promise). I've noticed a few times when putting air in my tires (because they keep leaking from being bent.. ugh..) that the entire wheel/hub is vibrating forward and backward with the engine. Not a slow shake, but a high frequency vibration. Both sides of the car do this in the front. There is also a loud binding/grinding noise when I'm turning out of my driveway coming from the driver's side as I'm turning the wheel, this binding only happens on certain days, and only when leaving my house when the car is still cold.

Now that I'm think about it as I write this, that makes be believe that the strut towers are going bad. My mechanic mentioned this while I was there, but I had just woken up and forgot it makes that noise once in awhile. I do need struts, they aren't awful, but they are starting to clunk in colder weather. If anyone could confirm or help me with this, that'd be great. If I come up with anything else, I'll post in an "Edit" to this original post if no one has responded.
2007 S60 2.5T AWD - Daily, Stock
1994 850 T5 (175k miles) - 5 Speed Swap, Angled Exhaust Housing, 3" Downpipe, 2.5" custom exhaust, Intake, ARD Stage 2 Tune, Various Bolt-ons.
1994 850 N/A Autobox (240k miles) - Completely Stock, Daily - Sold :(

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Year and Model: 2007 S60 2.5T
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Post by soulvoid1990 »

Alright, small update.

My mech contacted me today and says everything is fine. When I drove it today with him in the car, barely any play at all. We can't seem to find where this is coming from. Seems to go away when the car is ice cold. It's 22 right now in PA and with the wind chill it's close to 0 or below. We both believe it to be a combo of slightly worn struts/mounts, older tires (dates still good though) that are out of balance or have bubbles and the bent wheels.

After me driving it somewhat roughly to work (anyone in NEPA that knows route 11, it's what I travel daily.) it's causing the rubbers to settle is odd spots after sitting, then warming up as I drive, making it shake while cold. I'm going to order quick struts from FCP and see what happens. I'm going to order Volvo Pegasus 17" wheels (not replicas) as well. I know to not cut the wheel far, they'll rub.

Was looking to get some input on tires, I'm looking at Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06. Seems to be best from what I'm reading. Not looking for winter tires, I'll buy a set for the old wheels and change them out :)

I also need cam and crank sensors. I kinda figured.. It didn't wanna start at the shop today.

Trans and AWD have no play though, everything seems to be alright. If anyone has any input though, that'd be great.

Thanks!
2007 S60 2.5T AWD - Daily, Stock
1994 850 T5 (175k miles) - 5 Speed Swap, Angled Exhaust Housing, 3" Downpipe, 2.5" custom exhaust, Intake, ARD Stage 2 Tune, Various Bolt-ons.
1994 850 N/A Autobox (240k miles) - Completely Stock, Daily - Sold :(

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Post by abscate »

How are control arms and tie rid ends ( 4 total)?

Jack front end up and shoot video of push pull at

9 and 3 o'clock.....tie rods

12 and 6 o'clock......control arms.

With your roads you are due for both R/R

The shaking is obviously some missing since its at idle at rest..time for plugs and an evaluation of coils.
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