how much power do i want this car to make?

[j-dawg]

I just installed a Snabb intake in my cousin's S70 the other day and if you compare the Snabb to the stock corrugated plastic tube, the difference is incredible. You can't tell me that the new intake doesn't do anything.

I'm deeply skeptical that most aftermarket intake and exhaust parts (for most cars) make much difference for performance on their own. Snabb claims 5hp just from bolting it on with no tuning. That's small enough to be in the noise.

I have the Snabb pipe on my car. It's a nice piece of work for sure, and I'm happy to have it in my engine bay - looks good, nice turbo whistle, etc. But I consider it a cosmetic enhancement.

[biohazrd76]

Yes definitely more flow with the na throttle body acceleration is much quicker and more torque off the line but the other side of the turbo needs that downpipe to breathe with the intake pipe on the charge side being larger the downpipe also needs to be larger or you create a choking effect which generates excess Heat in the exhaust housing

[biohazrd76]

I am having trouble making pictures small enough to post here can someone help

[matthew1]

Biohazard, are you using Attachments to post the photos, or are you linking to them offsite? Are they straight from the camera? Which camera?

[bmdubya1198]

Yes definitely more flow with the na throttle body acceleration is much quicker and more torque off the line but the other side of the turbo needs that downpipe to breathe with the intake pipe on the charge side being larger the downpipe also needs to be larger or you create a choking effect which generates excess Heat in the exhaust housing

Makes sense. I've always said that, too, you can't do half the job. With a turbo, the intake and exhaust go hand in hand, obviously. If one side is restricted, you're not helping much my opening only one side.

I'm deeply skeptical that most aftermarket intake and exhaust parts (for most cars) make much difference for performance on their own. Snabb claims 5hp just from bolting it on with no tuning. That's small enough to be in the noise.

I have the Snabb pipe on my car. It's a nice piece of work for sure, and I'm happy to have it in my engine bay - looks good, nice turbo whistle, etc. But I consider it a cosmetic enhancement.

Like I said to him, if nothing else, it looks good in the engine bay! It sounds a little better (turbo is much louder), and it feels like there is a little better mid range power (not to mention a newly discovered boost spike to 16 psi on WOT pulls), but overall I don't think it was 5 horsepower. I'm still trying to decide if there is an actual difference in performance or it's just the placebo effect.

[biohazrd76]

The debate on measurable power gains is a never ending one. Does the intake make a measurable gain? Probably not. But boost is crisper mid range like you said. And when coupled with the right tuning and somewhere for it all to escape (DP), then we can start asking how much power was gained. Ard website has opinions for all these mods when you purchase a tune from them... nifty huh?

[bmdubya1198]

I plan to get a tune with a some of these bolt ons eventually. I really like that ARD offers all those specific options, too.