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replaced timing belt to find internal damage now what?

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Re: replaced timing belt to find internal damage now what?

Post by jane7191 » Fri May 18, 2018 12:45 am

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Re: replaced timing belt to find internal damage now what?

Post by mrbrian200 » Fri May 18, 2018 12:49 pm

You should be good on the timing components.



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Post by jane7191 » Fri May 18, 2018 5:10 pm

also came with 2 genuine volvo camshaft seals but problem being we literally tried 3 impact guns etc in an effort to remove the crankshaft pulley but wouldn't budge so didn't replace these seals because we couldn't access the area without it removed but now that it's going to be torn down to remove the head we'll be able to so at least 1 positive thing came of it .


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Re: replaced timing belt to find internal damage now what?

Post by alschnertz » Sat May 19, 2018 5:13 am

jane7191 wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 5:38 pm
ok sounds like it's the better alternative to buying a used motor which I can't believe how much junk yard motors are I can find a running s/v 40 for the price their asking. Since so much suspension work was done I just can't even think about walking away from this car I think with the head done it would have years of life considering the new timing belt and head gasket the transmission would be the only major component to fail but that doesn't scare me if happened because there is a fair amount of transmissions I see at fair prices.
It sounds like you're on the right track. If you decide to just do the head-work, you should consider replacing the VVT hub too. They tend to go after 150K and will spread oil all over the timing belt area. Many times, a VVT failure is misdiagnosed as a camshaft seal leak.

However, should you elect to replace the entire engine...
My 2001 S40 (217,000 miles) was just tornado damaged last Tuesday. Nothing major, just the hood/grill got smashed from a tree limb falling on it. It still drives fine, just doesn't look as nice and I will likely be replacing it.
It's a "one-family" owned car and runs great. I have done all the maintenance and repairs.

If you decide to change the engine, perhaps this car is an option and I'm not too far from PA.
Let me know if you're interested.


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Post by jane7191 » Sat May 19, 2018 12:44 pm

very grateful to read your post number 1 for the excellent tip on the VVT hub very valuable info!

sorry about the tornado damage on your 2001 sounds like you take great core of it and I am definitely interested you're just the type of owner I look again appreciate it look forward to more details etc location


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Post by alschnertz » Sun May 20, 2018 4:34 pm

I'll get back to you with a PM.
Cleaning up after the tornado is a priority right now.


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Post by jane7191 » Sun May 20, 2018 4:44 pm

I can imagine


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Post by alschnertz » Mon May 21, 2018 2:54 pm

PM sent.


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Re: replaced timing belt to find internal damage now what?

Post by emtor » Wed May 30, 2018 3:41 am

jane7191 wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 7:39 pm


I just can't take it anymore. I have been a member of this forum for a while and everytime the topic of a timing belt comes up, the ususal suspects proclaim that a broken belt means the end of an engine or the head is "destroyed" and requires purchasing a new or rebuilt head.
I used to own a Audi 90 quattro with the 5 cyl. 2.3 liter engine. These are interference engines and rumour has it that in the case of a timing belt failure the top end gets totally wrecked. An Audi mechanic said that unless the r.p.m. was so high that the valves started floating there was nothing to worry about.
At idle or low revs the valves would most likely not get bent at all.



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Post by jane7191 » Thu May 31, 2018 1:01 pm

well sadly after very very long consideration I've decided that it would be best considering my present situation to part ways with my beloved 2002 v40. This is my 3rd first generation v40 second owner which current status being extensive suspension work and new timing belt just installed only to find out low compression in 2 cylinders. That alone wouldn't at all be a deterrent from either replacing the engine or more probable alternative being removing head for rebuild but this being my only current driveable car with many in waiting I just can't justify nor do I want to buy another car in the interim . I'm not questioning it's worthiness and no doubt whatever replacement will surely be inferior but to simplify my life it's the only choice therefore allow another long awaited car in que its needed attention.

That being said if there's anyone with interest here's a rundown: Second owner first being a CT doctor relocating to Sweden bought in 2015 with 130K currently has 158K. Oil changes using synthetic blend every 5K miles, rear calipers replaced at 134K, throttle position sensor , icv gasket , fuel pressure regulator at 136K. Front and rear brakes (oem volvo) changed at 145K. transmission fluid changed 150K, l/r used low mileage volvo lower control arms, moog stabilizer links front and rear, struts and shocks front and rear including top mounts,Gates timing belt, Aisin water pump, Continental serpentine belt, tensioner and idler at 158K.
When failed attempt at starting compression showed 2 cylinders low don't know exact numbers offhand. Nothing was done after this point. Body and paint is very good no dents maybe a few very minor dings none that stand out , newer michelins on front with new low priced tires on rear, drivers left upper bolster is splitting at seam all other leather is good, all electricals work well including a/c and heat, sunroof and windows etc. headliner sags in rear, updated front frill to newer style, factory radio and cd, original floor carpetted mats. can give other specifics if needed open to offers pictures available


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67 morris minor woody traveller
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87 austin mini
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