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No transmission filter? Dealer said so

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No transmission filter? Dealer said so

Post by StupidS80 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:25 am

I ordered a trans filter on ebay for my 04 S80T So while speaking to the local dealer about an Etm which he said is dealer only and cant use after market bs. Out of curiosity I asked for a trans filter price. He says mine does not have a filter just a magnetic pan. Uhm what about dust and non metal stuff? Now I've searched many parts sites and they all show the same filter I ordered, so why does mine not have one or is the parts guy an idiot?



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Re: No transmission filter? Dealer said so

Post by RickHaleParker » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:47 pm

Stick your head under the front of the car and look .....


Platform: P80 1998 C70, B5234T3, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package, Plant: Uddevalla Sweden.

Platform: X40 (Nedcar) 2003 S40, B4204T3, AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000. Plant: Born Netherlands.

Platform P2 2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0, Plant Torslanda Sweden.
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Re: No transmission filter? Dealer said so

Post by StupidS80 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:52 pm

I cant my boobs are too big seriously I gotta get ramps first. I hope you guys got a sense of humor or I'm about to be banned. But how would you see the filter without dropping the pan?



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Re: No transmission filter? Dealer said so

Post by RickHaleParker » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:20 pm

You have the 2.5L which is mated to a Aisin Warner AW50-50/51. The AW50-50/51 cannot be serviced without disassembly. The picture shows the location of the ATF filter. The bolt next to the large gear is what holds the filter in place.

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Platform: P80 1998 C70, B5234T3, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package, Plant: Uddevalla Sweden.

Platform: X40 (Nedcar) 2003 S40, B4204T3, AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000. Plant: Born Netherlands.

Platform P2 2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0, Plant Torslanda Sweden.
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Re: No transmission filter? Dealer said so

Post by StupidS80 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:56 pm

Thank you. Well that's very interesting, just when you think you can just go to a walmart for a fluid & filter change Volvo throws a wrench in it. Guess I'll just pump and dump til the fluid is clean and btw the dealer was wrong



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Re: No transmission filter? Dealer said so

Post by RickHaleParker » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:19 pm

The transmission is not a Volvo transmission.
Nothing in the service schedule about changing the filter.
They are good transmissions, with laser cut gears and advances in fluid technology, I can see a filter lasting the lifespan of a transmission. Make sure you use a JWS 3309 transmission fluid.
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Platform: P80 1998 C70, B5234T3, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package, Plant: Uddevalla Sweden.

Platform: X40 (Nedcar) 2003 S40, B4204T3, AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000. Plant: Born Netherlands.

Platform P2 2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0, Plant Torslanda Sweden.
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Re: No transmission filter? Dealer said so

Post by StupidS80 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:41 pm

My first Volvo so I had no clue about the filter, is it the GM trans?. I read about the 3309 fluid but the parts stores in my area don't carry it but i did pick up a few qts of Valvoline Import full synthetic. On the label it lists Volvo #97340, 97341 & 1161521 will it be ok to use?



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Re: No transmission filter? Dealer said so

Post by June » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:09 pm

Only the 6 cylinder 2.9 and T6 models are lucky enough to have the GM transmission which does have a replaceable filter. The AW transmission is a Japanese transmission that I understand has no filter, only a internal screen not serviceable.

Oh you must never add fluid other than the exact specific fluid or you risk killing the transmission no Dextron III in case you got a 6 cylinder owners manual. The 5 and 6cylinder owners manual are different publications for S80. The GM Hydromatic uses Dextron III easily found, but many post Toyota sells the correct Japanese spec fluid cheaply. June
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1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned

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Re: No transmission filter? Dealer said so

Post by RickHaleParker » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:16 pm

No it is not the GM transmission. Aisin Warner is the name of the manufacture of the transmission mated to the 2.5L.

I cannot locate enough information to determine if the Valvoline Import full synthetic is OK.

The Volvo part number for the ATF is 1161540.
Correct Aisin-Warner ATF
Valvoline MaxLife is JWS 3309 compliant.
Mobil One ATF 3309 is JWS 3309 compliant.
The T-IV (ATF-0T4) fluids are JWS 3309 compliant.
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Platform: P80 1998 C70, B5234T3, AW50-42, Bosch Motronic 4.4, Special Edition package, Plant: Uddevalla Sweden.

Platform: X40 (Nedcar) 2003 S40, B4204T3, AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000. Plant: Born Netherlands.

Platform P2 2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0, Plant Torslanda Sweden.
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Re: No transmission filter? Dealer said so

Post by June » Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:29 pm

Here are pictures of the dipstick location for GM and I marked where the AW dipstick would be. You can't mix the two locations up. June
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My Volvo cars owned
1989 740 GLT ordered
1994 850 4door standard shift ordered
1996 960 ordered
1998 S90 ordered totalled after 3 weeks
1998 V70 GT dealer stock car
2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned

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