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Looking for XC60 buying advice

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Looking for XC60 buying advice

Post by mdewalle » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:48 am

Later this year when my son starts driving I plan to give him my 2001 V70 2.4T. I figured with only 143K miles on it, it will be a safe and reliable car for a teenage driver. So I'll need another car for myself and I've started looking for an XC60 (probably years 2013-15) but I've got some questions. I've read and watched a lot of reviews but I'm confused about a couple things...

- Is the 2.0 liter 4 cylinder engine sufficient for a car that size and weight? Some say it's not and some say the engine is loud or rough.
- Any preference for the 6 or 8 speed transmission? Some say the 6 is rough.
- What does Volvo mean with the "Drive E" technology? Some reviews say it's the new 2.0 4 cylinder engine, others say it refers to the feature where the engine turns off when you're at a light, again others say it's an electric assisted engine (hybrid?).
- Which of the engine options have single versus twin turbo (super charged)? Often the specs just say "turbo" without details.

To clarify, I'm looking for an AWD (for winter ski trips) and at least the base turbo, but I prefer the super charged.

I appreciate any advice! Thanks!

- marc
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Re: Looking for XC60 buying advice

Post by June » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:47 pm

Drive E
T5 one turbo 250ish hp
T6 one turbo one supercharger like 315 hp
Through 2018 all have aggravating autostart which must be switched off everytime the engine is started otherwise everytime you come to a stop the engine will shut off. For all 2019 autostart stays shut off once turned off permanently unless reactivated by pushing the button. So that alone makes the 2019 the only drive e Volvo worth having imo.
T8 is the hybrid and only on the new platform.

T5 sucks with AWD.... So T5 is best bought as FWD. Otherwise it is as slow as a old 240NA. T6 only is HOT when in Dynamic driving mode with Premium fuel. Notice on the fuel door of all Drive E equipped cars "premium fuel required". It means just that or they drive horribly. It so happens I am in a Service loaner 2018 XC60 and here is a photo of the fuel door. June
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Re: Looking for XC60 buying advice

Post by June » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:58 pm

Yes the 2.0 drive e is sufficient in FWD. AWD T6 is mandatory if you expect to feel like you are driving a turbo Volvo.

As I mentioned above Premium required. So test driving a car you really feel serious about get as much Premium in the tank as possible to get a feeling of the actual power otherwise the cheap 87 most will have in the tank will put you off a perfectly good car.

Though my car is 15 years old I only service at Volvo and drive the new loaners every year so I have driven all the Drive E cars over the years. June
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Re: Looking for XC60 buying advice

Post by June » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:22 pm

If you get a 16 up XC90 or 18 up XC60 look for this dash. It is optional. Also here is the autostart button. On the old XC60 it is a actual button in front of the gear shifter. June
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2002 S80 T6 ordered totalled
2004 S80 T6 dealer stock car and current car owned

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Re: Looking for XC60 buying advice

Post by jimmy57 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:14 pm

i had several XC60 models as company cars 2010-2018. I own a 2010 T6 R Design. The 2.0 4 cylinder Drive-E family engines have 8 speed automatics. The t5 ersion with AWD will jump off the line and stay neck and neck with the 5 cylinder 2.5T/ 6 speed auto in that car the brief time they did the 5 cylinder. The 4 has different noise but the 5 cylinder in that car is just as noisy. You would have to drive one to see if it suits you. We all have different ideas of adequate performance. Same with start/stop system. It bugged me as long as I decided it bugged me and once I just let it go I rarely noticed it. I drove a 2019 XC40 for a time and did the software upgrade that got S/S cancel button change where it stays off. My commute MPG was worse with the engine idling all the time. Idling all the time is leaving the lights on when no one is home. The engine is not needed when the car isn't moving. Driving hybrids and electric cars will change all those expectations before long. Regardless of what you buy, even what make you buy, it will likely not be a good idea to go 10,000 miles between oil changes. People that start car, don't remote start it, and then drive it off easily and then get on a highway and go 40 miles as their rgular drive can do well with 10K interval. Most of the rest of us should adjust it downward. Synthetic oil is way better but falls short of being magic for city drivers in an overcrowded commute.
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Re: Looking for XC60 buying advice

Post by June » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:15 pm

Actually the drive E powertrain came standard with a 7 speed transmission and a optional 8 speed. At least through the 18 year models. June
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Re: Looking for XC60 buying advice

Post by mdewalle » Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:30 pm

Thank you both! Very helpful info (and pics!). Didn't know about the premium issue.

June: I don't think I can afford a 2018 so won't get that nice Nav in the dash. I'll do some test drives but will prob seek out a T6.

Jimmy57: Since you've driven both the XC60 and XC40, how does the trunk space compare? I've got dogs and kids with sports gear, so not sure a trunk much smaller than an XC60 will work.

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Re: Looking for XC60 buying advice

Post by jimmy57 » Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:52 pm

June wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:15 pm
Actually the drive E powertrain came standard with a 7 speed transmission and a optional 8 speed. At least through the 18 year models. June
There was never a 7 speed auto. There was TF80SC 6 speed launched with the V8 in 2005, P2 R models beginning 2006, then 3.2 inline short 6 cylinder in 2007. P3 models with 5 cylinder got the TF80SC also. When the new 4 cylinder launched along with it came the TF81SC 8 speed.

As for the size: The XC40 is much shorter in cargo area as it is a smaller and shorter wheelbase model compared to the XC60 of either P3 or SPA platform. The two XC60s seem very similar sized for cargo when I loaded things I carried in either veersion
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Re: Looking for XC60 buying advice

Post by June » Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:59 am

jimmy57 wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:52 pm
June wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:15 pm
Actually the drive E powertrain came standard with a 7 speed transmission and a optional 8 speed. At least through the 18 year models. June
There was never a 7 speed auto. There was TF80SC 6 speed launched with the V8 in 2005, P2 R models beginning 2006, then 3.2 inline short 6 cylinder in 2007. P3 models with 5 cylinder got the TF80SC also. When the new 4 cylinder launched along with it came the TF81SC 8 speed.

As for the size: The XC40 is much shorter in cargo area as it is a smaller and shorter wheelbase model compared to the XC60 of either P3 or SPA platform. The two XC60s seem very similar sized for cargo when I loaded things I carried in either veersion
Your right 6 not 7 speed. I had a look again at the build your Volvo sight which is the current year info. The 6 speed geartronic is still listed as standard with the 8 speed optional. If the 8 speed is wanted by the OP I wanted them to be aware it was optional at least on some models. On a used vehicle it would be easy to use the manual mode to see which a perspective vehicle has. June


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Re: Looking for XC60 buying advice

Post by jimmy57 » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:58 am

The website needs some update. The current offering (SPA-P5 platform) only has 4 cylinder engines and they only have the 8 speed auto. When the 6 cylinder engines, 3.2 NA and the 3.0 Turbo, were the only XC60 engines here the 6 speed was the only transmission behind those. There was a period of time late 15 and 16 when the 5 cylinder 2.5T was offered like it had been all over the world for years and it also had the 6 speed in this model. The Volvo USA or Canada sites should be correct but if you found the world site it would be different due to offering 6 speed manuals with many engines with auto transmission as optional.



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