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Wow... it's amazing how badly the GM cars from that era hold up in a collision. Really any American cars. European cars are just made so much better.
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Most every large university town picks up a Volvo dealer, I'm surprised the Fighting Irish haven't picked one up

We even had one in Bozeman
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bmdubya1198 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 14:36 Wow... it's amazing how badly the GM cars from that era hold up in a collision. Really any American cars. European cars are just made so much better.
You're so right but the Asian cars other than the new Subaru Accent are lacking... The Accent crash tests look exceptionally good. Really Subaru has extremely good crash tests and if I were to go Asian Subaru would be my only choice. Nothing American I hate to say except maybe a 1959 Lincoln Continental Convertible. I have my eye on one on Autotrader LOL. I'm sure it's unsafe crash wise but it sure is unusual! $43K and I'm sure worth every penny LOL.

My father lost his friend in a 2018 Nissan Altima in a side impact Easter 2018. The car was about a month old. Nissan has no excuse for not providing better protection. Honestly there is no excuse for other companies not to copy the SIPPS bar and center crumple zone with collapsing console!!! Volvo only added it in 1992 for gosh sake! Everyone copied the SIPPS bag and air curtains.......... had Nissan built the Altima better Dr. White would have survived. The door pannel intruded and the seat folded crushing him. In Volvo the seat moves with the intrusion in a hard impact collapsing the console by design. Yes that Chevrolet was pitiful in its construction.

These last couple of years auto makers have been forced to build safer cars. Look at the small overlap crash tests on even the 2012 Prius my neighbor has! Talk about unsafe!!! June
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June wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 17:03
bmdubya1198 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 14:36 Wow... it's amazing how badly the GM cars from that era hold up in a collision. Really any American cars. European cars are just made so much better.
You're so right but the Asian cars other than the new Subaru Accent are lacking... The Accent crash tests look exceptionally good. Really Subaru has extremely good crash tests and if I were to go Asian Subaru would be my only choice. Nothing American I hate to say except maybe a 1959 Lincoln Continental Convertible. I have my eye on one on Autotrader LOL. I'm sure it's unsafe crash wise but it sure is unusual! $43K and I'm sure worth every penny LOL.

My father lost his friend in a 2018 Nissan Altima in a side impact Easter 2018. The car was about a month old. Nissan has no excuse for not providing better protection. Honestly there is no excuse for other companies not to copy the SIPPS bar and center crumple zone with collapsing console!!! Volvo only added it in 1992 for gosh sake! Everyone copied the SIPPS bag and air curtains.......... had Nissan built the Altima better Dr. White would have survived. The door pannel intruded and the seat folded crushing him. In Volvo the seat moves with the intrusion in a hard impact collapsing the console by design. Yes that Chevrolet was pitiful in its construction.

These last couple of years auto makers have been forced to build safer cars. Look at the small overlap crash tests on even the 2012 Prius my neighbor has! Talk about unsafe!!! June
What's crazy to me is that they would rather invest money into safety features like cameras and sensors, but not improve the quality of the vehicle to the point where if you do end up in an accident, you'll walk away without a scratch. Sure, preventing the accident is ideal, but in the absolute worst case, you want to know that you'll be okay.
They can add all the sensors and cameras they want, nothing will make a car as safe as just building it to withstand a heavy impact!
abscate wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 16:15 Most every large university town picks up a Volvo dealer, I'm surprised the Fighting Irish haven't picked one up

We even had one in Bozeman
Charlotte's older/original Volvo dealer is called University Volvo, right around the block from UNC Charlotte. Ironically it's right up the road from the Pull-A-Part I frequent...
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June wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 13:58 Oh my car went in yesterday and I am driving the 2019 S60 currently. Definitely not me, but most of you out there will love this car's light nimble feeling on the road!
I haven't seen one of the new '19 S60s in person yet. I love my '06. The exterior look of the P3s didn't do much for me but those new ones look so sharp in the pictures. I'm sorta dyin to see one. If my friend sees an XC listed for sale in the Chicago area he wants to look at, I told him I drive him up there. He's very unfamiliar with the city and doesn't know his way around. He can go off on a test drive in the XC with the salesman while I gaze at one of the sedans.

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mrbrian200 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 18:05
June wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 13:58 Oh my car went in yesterday and I am driving the 2019 S60 currently. Definitely not me, but most of you out there will love this car's light nimble feeling on the road!
I haven't seen one of the new '19 S60s in person yet. I love my '06. The exterior look of the P3s didn't do much for me but those new ones look so sharp in the pictures. I'm sorta dyin to see one. If my friend sees an XC listed for sale in the Chicago area he wants to look at, I told him I drive him up there. He's very unfamiliar with the city and doesn't know his way around. He can go off on a test drive in the XC with the salesman while I gaze at one of the sedans.
If you like a more modern lighter feel you will love the 19 S60! If you are like me and like that heavy in command European sedan feel than the S90 short 2017 model is for you. The 2018 S90 long version sort of looses something drive wise, but only slightly! Personally the 2019 XC90 T5 FWD is the model I'm in love with. The AWD XC 60 or 90 are too truckish drive wise on the interstate for my taste as the FWD XCs drive more like a V70, 90 carish, wagonish if that makes any sense.

My qualm with the 2019 S60 I'm driving now is I'm larger on top and the B pillars are in my way entering and exiting the car. Also this car has the Harmon Carton stereo and has no rear deck speakers or subwoofer to make up for the lack... Definitely the $3,200 upgrade to the Bower & Wilkins is mandatory!!!! Also it could use a bit more insulation. Otherwise it is amazing and can U turn in hardly no space, the driving position is excellent. Much better than the S90 driving position. The dashboard on the S90 looms like a late 80s Firebird dash did making you feel like you are sitting too low. All the XCs have excellent driving positions. This is a T5 FWD and once I filled it up with premium it became a little rocket!!! All Drive e engines require Premium fuel and regular causes them to eat gas and have crappie take off power and all around sluggish feel. These service loaners always seem to have regular in them.. People are cheap!!! Overall my opinion of driving this 2019 S60 is Volvo has hit a home run! June
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bmdubya1198 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 17:55
June wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 17:03
bmdubya1198 wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 14:36 Wow... it's amazing how badly the GM cars from that era hold up in a collision. Really any American cars. European cars are just made so much better.
You're so right but the Asian cars other than the new Subaru Accent are lacking... The Accent crash tests look exceptionally good. Really Subaru has extremely good crash tests and if I were to go Asian Subaru would be my only choice. Nothing American I hate to say except maybe a 1959 Lincoln Continental Convertible. I have my eye on one on Autotrader LOL. I'm sure it's unsafe crash wise but it sure is unusual! $43K and I'm sure worth every penny LOL.

My father lost his friend in a 2018 Nissan Altima in a side impact Easter 2018. The car was about a month old. Nissan has no excuse for not providing better protection. Honestly there is no excuse for other companies not to copy the SIPPS bar and center crumple zone with collapsing console!!! Volvo only added it in 1992 for gosh sake! Everyone copied the SIPPS bag and air curtains.......... had Nissan built the Altima better Dr. White would have survived. The door pannel intruded and the seat folded crushing him. In Volvo the seat moves with the intrusion in a hard impact collapsing the console by design. Yes that Chevrolet was pitiful in its construction.

These last couple of years auto makers have been forced to build safer cars. Look at the small overlap crash tests on even the 2012 Prius my neighbor has! Talk about unsafe!!! June
What's crazy to me is that they would rather invest money into safety features like cameras and sensors, but not improve the quality of the vehicle to the point where if you do end up in an accident, you'll walk away without a scratch. Sure, preventing the accident is ideal, but in the absolute worst case, you want to know that you'll be okay.
They can add all the sensors and cameras they want, nothing will make a car as safe as just building it to withstand a heavy impact!
Volvo and Subaru (thinking about those Legacy commercials) are the only brands that even come to mind when it comes to safety. Safety seems to be an afterthought for everyone else, and even when they do talk about it, it's cameras or sensors. What good are those sensors when you get hit head on at 40mph?
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Sensors are much cheaper to build. Better margins. Daily dose of market economy cynicism.

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Rattnalle wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 23:38 Sensors are much cheaper to build. Better margins. Daily dose of market economy cynicism.
But any good drug dealer will tell you it's not a good practice to kill your customers.
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WhatAmIDoing wrote: 20 Feb 2019, 00:59
Rattnalle wrote: 19 Feb 2019, 23:38 Sensors are much cheaper to build. Better margins. Daily dose of market economy cynicism.
But any good drug dealer will tell you it's not a good practice to kill your customers.
There'll be new ones. People are much more addicted to cars than any drug..

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