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XC90 (2016 or later) buying advice

Help, Advice, Owners' Discussion and DIY Tutorials on Volvo XC90s. The XC90 proved to be very popular, and very good for Volvo's sales numbers, since its introduction in model year 2003 (North America).
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XC90 (2016 or later) buying advice

Post by mdewalle » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:29 am

Later this year my son will start driving my V70 and I'm looking to buy a used XC90 (2nd gen) for myself. As I'm doing my research I've run into a couple of questions that confuse me and I can't find straight answers on:

1) I'm unclear on the difference between the T5 and the T6. Is the only difference that the T5 has the single turbo and the T6 also has the supercharger? If that is correct I would be interested in driving impressions if you've driven both. With the small 2.0 4 cylinder engine, the supercharger might be needed for this heavy car.

2) Do all of them have the third row or is that an option? I see some listed as 5 seats and I see some trunk pics that don't appear to have a 3rd row.

3) I'm reading a lot of negative reviews from people that own(ed) a 2016 XC90 and had lots and lots of issues. Later years seem to get much more positive reviews. Was the XC90 plagued with problems that first year of the new gen and should I avoid 2016 cars?

Much appreciate any advice you could share!

- marc



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Re: XC90 (2016 or later) buying advice

Post by June » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:54 pm

I have driven all years of the 2nd generation as service loaners as long as a month at a time. All require premium fuel and are gutless without it as well as chew gas so if you are a 87 only user look on. Premium only is clearly marked on the fuel door. The T5 is only acceptable in FWD. T5 AWD is a underpowered dog no matter what. T6 AWD drives best in Dynamic mode and must be put back in Dynamic mode every time you start the engine. The T5 FWD drives great right away with premium fuel. FWD is more refined above 70mph and noticeably quieter at interstate speeds than the AWD variant. AWD feels truckish above 70mph with noticeable road noise and vibrations. Hands down I prefer the T5 FWD even over the T6 which only comes AWD which robs power and fuel economy on this model noticeably. Leather is optional on the base model and R I think. The "pleather" looks like leather so don't assume you are looking at leather. The $3,200.00 optional Bowers & Wilkins stereo is worth looking for as well as the optional dash with the GPS maps between the tach and speedometer. Otherwise all other options are not as important in my opinion. The 2019 is noticeably improved and my choice. Good luck, June
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Re: XC90 (2016 or later) buying advice

Post by June » Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:16 pm

Oh I forgot, I have never seen a two row 17, 18, 19 XC90. I didn't notice a 16 either. Since they come with 3rd row ac it seems like a stretch to imagine Volvo building a 2 row model. After all it is Volvo's flagship model. I have personally looked at build sheets for the 17 through the 19 XC90 as I have toyed with buying one for several years and never seen 3rd row as a option. Originally I was put off as I wanted T6 as FWD then in 19 when aggravating autostart can be permanently shut down the Inscription model now only comes AWD. So no $3,200 stereo or Napa leather with FWD T5. For me either I get what I want or I keep my S80 T6... June
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Re: XC90 (2016 or later) buying advice

Post by SuperHerman » Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:58 pm

My wife owns, drives and maintains a 2016 T6 AWD. It has the Napa leather, Bowers stereo, and GPS.

The leather gets dirty too easily. The stereo is fine. The GPS is junk. Once when driving it I entered an address and it could not find the street name so I resorted to my phone. When I left the GPS knew the street name. This happens way to often and my wife uses her phone 95% of the time.

The nice touch screen panel is a huge hassle to use and one cannot drive and operate it without taking eyes of the road for too long - even for the seat warmer.

The car has been to the shop a number of times for various "free" software upgrades. The last one at around 35k miles it returned with new tires and a $2400 bill I happened to see the charge on the credit card. Tires were spent and needed replacing - so like the prior XC90s - the new models chew through tires.

I don't know the additional services performed when the car was at Volvo for the "free" software recalls - I do know that the one I saw was way too high for a car still under warranty.

Overall the car drives very well, has solid power and my wife likes it. She bought it and cares for it - she is happy - but I question how expensive the car is to maintain.
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Re: XC90 (2016 or later) buying advice

Post by precopster » Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:24 am

At 56,000kms or 35k miles a $2,400 bill is quite an expense.

Isn't the car still under warranty? Is that fee for tires alone? If so that's some expensive rubber!


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Re: XC90 (2016 or later) buying advice

Post by SuperHerman » Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:53 pm

precopster: I never saw the actual invoice - only the final amount on the credit card statement. I have no idea what they did - but it has new tires. The tires are the same that was on it when it came new - street price at every store - mounted, balanced and aligned is about $1,400.00. Whether Volvo over charged I don't know - they claimed they had a tire special going.

Yes it is still under warranty. I stay clear of the maintenance on her car - makes life easier.



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Re: XC90 (2016 or later) buying advice

Post by abscate » Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:32 am

es it is still under warranty. I stay clear of the maintenance on her car - makes life easier.
It’s either all in or all out.

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Re: XC90 (2016 or later) buying advice

Post by June » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:14 am

abscate wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:32 am
es it is still under warranty. I stay clear of the maintenance on her car - makes life easier.
It’s either all in or all out.

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Abscate this guy is smart! Nothing worse than a angry wife! Mike doesn't want to know anything about the S80 service he also prefers to stay clear and to be perfectly honest I prefer it as well.

I'm going to guess that bill on a 35K 3 year old XC would be tires, breaks and oil change. That would fit in the money spent/age mileage he quoted. June


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Re: XC90 (2016 or later) buying advice

Post by abscate » Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:34 am

I’m blessed with many women who treat the cars like fine machinery, tuned in and report problems early.

We had a no start on the BMW and after 5 second season of cranking she stopped and said, somethings wrong, don’t run the battery down.

That, and getting picked up at airport , coming home to Philly Cheese steaks.


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Re: XC90 (2016 or later) buying advice

Post by SuperHerman » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:23 pm

Hah - my wife turned my old Range Rover over until the engine was ruined. Granted it was the coldest day of the year and the engine was suspect, but the cylinder wash did it in.

As June says - I leave the wife's car alone. I will wash it, fill the wiper bottle and fill it with gas, but I do not work on it past that. It is her money and her car. She is happy and I am not blamed -- therefore I am happy.

Now my daughters are driving my cars and have been trained to use the OBD2 readers each car comes equipped with as well as the tire pressure gauge also equipped. Light comes on - they call and run the codes. Neither has ever been stranded, they know what broke and where it is and what it does after the repair. They know they are being trained to handle things on their own.

But - I will say I am also blessed with my women. I really don't even complain about the Volvo dealership bill - just watching.



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