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Re: Too. Many. Wagons.

Post by BlackBart » Thu May 02, 2019 10:07 am

erikv11 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 4:00 am
Ehhh the red one's a 94. Too quirky. :P
But '94 is the best one!...and the fastest! =)


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Re: Too. Many. Wagons.

Post by BlackBart » Thu May 02, 2019 10:08 am

Marcobrick wrote:
Wed May 01, 2019 10:10 pm
Looks about right to me....
I like an MGB GT! It it right hand drive in NZ? Or do you just have to drive upside down, down there?


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Re: Too. Many. Wagons.

Post by BlackBart » Thu May 02, 2019 10:24 am

MDK wrote:
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I like the red one. Too bad you're in Bozeman MT...
But...I'm not. I'm in lovely, interesting Missoula. We are lower, west-er, greener, warmer, and everyone reads. Home of the University of Montana - Go Griz. Closer to being the Seattle of Montana (my former home) in attitude and climate. But we came back to take care of ailing parents years ago and stayed. Now my kids love it here.

Not that we don't have the same infestation of rednecks that most of the large rectangle states have. So it's a trade-off - miss the urban excitement but we live at a relaxed pace in a friendly, safe place with a lot of interesting people. We joked the other day that our kids are the 5th generation of my side of the family who are from, or have lived in, MT.


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Re: Too. Many. Wagons.

Post by BlackBart » Thu May 02, 2019 10:31 am

abscate wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 5:27 am
I did 5 years as Group manager for a tech firm there in the last decade. Beautiful place for those who like winter.
Winter is right! Yike. I once sheered off all the nylon timing gear teeth in my Ford Capri V6 trying to start it at -20º F. Good thing it was only four years there.

You didn't work for a certain "respectful" Congressman from a large rectangle state, did you......?


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Re: Too. Many. Wagons.

Post by BlackBart » Thu May 02, 2019 10:54 am

I've seriously considered the 2012-2013 BMW 3-series wagon (E91) as a fast trip car...but I don't really need it. RWD, good looking, low, small, fast, great interior, the last great NA straight six, reliable (relatively speaking), balanced, good handling, fun to drive. There are a few manuals out there if you can hunt one down, and they came in the ix AWD version for sketchy conditions.

I know, I know, it's no VOLVO!
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But, moving on and relying on Betty (is this wise??) might make room for the 122 wagon project. First I have to finish my Alfa.

I can see I have a thing for wagons....
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Re: Too. Many. Wagons.

Post by abscate » Thu May 02, 2019 12:27 pm

No Bavarian Money Wasters after 2006. It gets ugly after that. They even make you register your battery.

Is Missoula really more funky than BZN (Go Cats - eat the Grizzlies)??


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Re: Too. Many. Wagons.

Post by MacNoob » Thu May 02, 2019 3:57 pm

Oooohh red 850 turbo wagon. mmmmmm.



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Re: Too. Many. Wagons.

Post by BlackBart » Thu May 02, 2019 3:59 pm

Oh, way more. We are the liberal arts school after all. Bozeman is the cow town, plus jet setters who have "discovered" it. It's trying really hard to be an upscale ski "town," where we are a small city with real city issues.

Here's the only Bavarianish car we've ever had, 1986, so we're 20 years ahead of your deadline...my son's E30 project, the $1000 non-running car.
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Re: Too. Many. Wagons.

Post by EngineeringBloke » Thu May 02, 2019 5:09 pm

BlackBart wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 10:24 am
MDK wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 4:32 am
I like the red one. Too bad you're in Bozeman MT...
But...I'm not. I'm in lovely, interesting Missoula. We are lower, west-er, greener, warmer, and everyone reads.
Of course, once in a while the glacier lets go of 200 square miles of dammed lake water (Glacial Lake Missoula) - creating the scablands.

"... estimated the water flow was nine cubic miles per hour."

Might keep a mop around or a small inflatable boat, or a Polestar. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_Floods
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Re: Too. Many. Wagons.

Post by BlackBart » Thu May 02, 2019 6:11 pm

It's true! Good homework! That's why all those crazy carved out drainages and draws in eastern WA with no river in them. Here in Mizzu and areas around here, there are horizontal lines in the bare hills which really show up with low sun or just a dusting of snow - they are the many shorelines of Glacial Lake Missoula! They look like topo lines or bathtub rings in real time. Imagine, 10 or 20,000 years later, they're still there. And the water level was 2000 feet above us, multiplied by the area of all the western valleys - it's mind-boggling. It broke and flooded and refilled every couple of thousand years.

Mike's Geology Lesson #1: (I've probably duplicated many of your photos)
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This is over in Idaho - same thing. Uncovered after a fire.
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Then in places like this - Camas Prairie Montana - there are enormous ripples on the landscape. These are like the ripples in the sand under a stream, on a colossal scale.
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In Washington
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On the left is carved out rock. On the right is the last of the soil as it washed away.
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Here are the many lake bottoms in the soil near Walla Walla....
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Then all this was carved out of solid rock - the bedrock below the soil - and carved out the Columbia River Gorge to the ocean.
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Full disclosure - my neighbor the late great Dave Ault wrote the book, and my father was a geologist.
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