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Re: Cold hard start warm no start

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T = 16°C

R ~ 5321.65903 + (-144.171747 * 16) + (0.95432339 16²)
R ~ 5321.65903 + (-2306.747952) + (0.95432339 * 256)
R ~ 5321.65903 + (-2306.747952) + (204.30678784)
R ~ 3219.21786584

3219.21786584/3000 * 100% = 107.30%.

So far it looks like the equation is running about 7.X % high.
Not too shabby for only six data points.
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Post by Kerpre »

So from the table, I’m taking the temp sensor is fine
. I dont really follow the equation, you so kindly worked out for me

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Post by wizechatmgr »

When you say it won't start - does the engine turn over but not catch/fire?

If so, could be antenna ring going south... Have you tried pulling codes with VIDA?
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Post by Kerpre »

I have pulled DTC’s that is it. There is no CEL but the service light is on intermittently. I have a guy that will vida scan for 75$, so I’m just trying to figures things out before then.

What would vida pull that obd2 can’t?

So when it does have it’s no start condition, the very first time I go to start it (with or without ether) it will catch for a second (rises to around 2500rpm) and then will die. Every start after that is just a cranking no catch/fire situation.

Once this happens I try it with ether again, most times it will catch and die but others it will just crank. Is there any way to test this antenna ring or bypass it for testing purposes?

Thanks you for your reply

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Kerpre wrote: 27 May 2019, 02:12 I have pulled DTC’s that is it. There is no CEL but the service light is on intermittently. I have a guy that will vida scan for 75$, so I’m just trying to figures things out before then.

What would vida pull that obd2 can’t?
For that price you could get your own DiCE clone and install a patched version of VIDA.

VIDA-DiCE can get to all the control modules. Generic OBDII typically only does Engine, Transmission and Emissions, then they do not always get the translations correct.

Go to eBay and search for "VIDA Dice".
Go here for the best patched version of VIDA.
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Oh wow I think that is well above me And my computer knowledge tbh. Is there a thread that explains how to download vida etc. tbh I don’t even know what a virtual Machine is..

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Post by abscate »

Kerpe , that’s sounds like ME7 immobilizer behaviour. Have you changed keys recently?
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nope, I have only had the one key and immobiliser remote the whole time. Car was not running when I received it so I can not confirm that it is an existing problem :/

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Hey Rick, I am having trouble installing the vida programme, it comes up with this error message. Is there any work around for this?
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Post by wizechatmgr »

Check and make sure the data from the DVD is first copied to the hard drive and then run from there, this may sometimes help. Sometimes installer packages get retarded and try to write temporary files to the DVD...
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