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1999 v70R stolen key solution? FIXED! now chasing other issues.

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1999 v70R stolen key solution? FIXED! now chasing other issues.

Post by Roverguy88 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:33 pm

So I recently had my shop broken into and they stole the keys to a few cars including my v70r. My question is that I do have a running parts 99 v70r with the key. Is it possible to swap the ignition, imobilizer, ecm and TCU over. And is there a CEM in there that I cant seem to locate? The reason I'm looking for a solution is closest place that can get a key and program it is 270 miles away. Thanks for any advice!
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Re: 1999 v70R stolen key solution?

Post by wizechatmgr » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:10 pm

I don't believe the CEM is addressable on this year unlike the newer cars.


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Post by Roverguy88 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:55 pm

Not sure what you meant by addressable but I swapped every module I could find over and it cranks but still no injector pulse. I dont have an ETS light on but also cant get my scanner to communicate going to give it one more shot tomorrow then if no go it will just have to sit and wait till I drag it somewhere to have a new key programmed.



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Re: 1999 v70R stolen key solution?

Post by wizechatmgr » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:33 am

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Fri Jul 26, 2019 11:55 pm
Not sure what you meant by addressable but I swapped every module I could find over and it cranks but still no injector pulse. I dont have an ETS light on but also cant get my scanner to communicate going to give it one more shot tomorrow then if no go it will just have to sit and wait till I drag it somewhere to have a new key programmed.
Are you sure you don't have an antenna ring issue? Reason I ask is being as they stole the keys, the next logical thing would be to steal the car.

Being as they didn't steal it, I'd be inclined to think either they couldn't start it, or they plan on coming back in the near future to steal it. Could accidentally put all 4 corners on blocks, odds are they won't look, they will start it and then get frustrated to heck - hopefully you'll hear it and be able to intervene before they remove the key again... :D

By not addressable, I mean it's essentially a dumb module that I don't believe has programming or anything special in this particular year. I could be incorrect...


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Post by Roverguy88 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:49 am

At the time they stole the keys the engine was torn down thank God but that was another reason I was wanting to swap my ignition and key. And gotcha that's what I thought as far as the CEM I am now wondering if the ETM is vin programmed or just by model theoretically if I swap all the vin coded modules it shouldn't know the difference and take the key.



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Post by Roverguy88 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 12:51 am

Oh and yeah good antenna ring I started the parts car this morning before I began this journey.



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Post by wizechatmgr » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:10 am

Just reread your post and noticed something important - you wrote the injectors weren't pulsing. By chance, are you also devoid of spark?


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Re: 1999 v70R stolen key solution?

Post by Ozark Lee » Sat Jul 27, 2019 10:26 am

I don't think you can just swap the alarm module. The ECU, the alarm module, and the key code all gets compiled into a single software package, It makes it a total PITA when you go to do anything. You can swap the cylinder and the key but you will need to get a duplicate key (or keys) and the same for the remote if that got taken as well and have a software download for the car to make it all work.

The keys and the remotes come with a code on the package that needs to be entered at the time of the software download. On an old key you have no idea what that code was. When they (the stealership) do the download they can remove the old codes from the list. I think it cost me about $600.00 to get new remotes and keys.

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Post by Roverguy88 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 1:07 pm

Haven't checked spark and yeah I figured it would be dumb luck if I got it to work I've done similar on saab and land rovers in the past with bad bcms and just swapped all the computers some of those I do have to re sync but I have an autologic for land rover.



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Re: 1999 v70R stolen key solution?

Post by Roverguy88 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:51 pm

IT'S ALIVE! I had to charge the battery up and I have a misfire but swapping the models, ecu and ignition with key from the parts car actually worked!



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