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Manual FWD trannies compatible with 2002 V70 2.4t (also, swap questions)

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2001 - 2007 V70
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Manual FWD trannies compatible with 2002 V70 2.4t (also, swap questions)

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The old slushbox is starting to tell me it wants to give up the goat so I figured I'd start preparing now instead of when it finally does croak. I'm trying to find what the best transmission to swap mine with is and I've hit a bit of a roadblock. There's plenty of info on swapping pre 2000's as well as a bit of info on swapping AWD's like the xc70 and the R series cars but I haven't found anything really specific for swapping 2000-2004 P2 fwd cars.

Basically, what model transmission should I be looking for? I've got a 2002 v70 2.4t with the AW55-50/51SN transmission and I'd like to keep it FWD. I know that the m56, m58, and m66 trannies are really the only ones I have to choose from but I'm not sure which one specifically I should be aiming for as I've heard the m58's and m66's are mainly meant for AWD use and that the m56 has a weird split designation where some are geared really low while others are normal.

Oh and one last thing: Finding manual transmissions online here in NY has been a pain as no one seems to sell used ones and I certainly can't afford a new one right now so if you have a recommendation for either where to buy or what donors to look for let me know. (On second look I might just be better off importing one.)
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Small update: So I did some deeper searching and found this thread: https://forums.swedespeed.com/showthrea ... nd-the-M66 with the following info:
M56 is only FWD Manual
M66 is FWD or AWD Manual
M58 is AWD 5 speed manual
M59 is FWD manual 5 speed with LSD
So it looks like the m66 is a-ok for FWD use and that the m59 is an option that exists. I'll be looking into seeing if I can get the m56/66/59 from the brits since they actually exist over there.
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Post by abscate »

Are you near me? Did you try Erie VoVo in Utica with no luck?

Call , don't use the internet on this search.



Ive got the engine bar and actually dropped a manual recently, so can offer help/advice at least.
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abscate wrote: 17 Apr 2019, 06:37 Are you near me? Did you try Erie VoVo in Utica with no luck?

Ive got the engine bar and actually dropped a manual recently, so can offer help/advice at least.
Had no idea that erie volvo was even a thing since I'm over by Albany. I just checked in with their parts list and it looks like they've got a couple of 02/03 manuals listed with one in CT. Thanks for the name drop as I probably would have been stuck trying to ebay it from the brits.

Also quick question: Is it better to pull the engine out vertically or drop the subframe? I've heard that dropping the sub is a PITA compared to vertical hoisting and vice versa.
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Post by abscate »

Im 30 minutes North of you. I even have a guy with flatbed who can move cars, but we have to throw him some bucks as he is young and starting out.

Erie is 99 minutes from me, so 120 minutes from you via I90

We can probably borrow the cherry picker from Bruno, since he still has my engine dropper (or is that Marco)

F0r a trans swap I would go down, but that is just because that is what I have done.

Ive got a flat bed trailer for lugging big stuff too.
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abscate wrote: 17 Apr 2019, 07:06 Im 30 minutes North of you. I even have a guy with flatbed who can move cars, but we have to throw him some bucks as he is young and starting out.

Erie is 99 minutes from me, so 120 minutes from you via I90

We can probably borrow the cherry picker from Bruno, since he still has my engine dropper (or is that Marco)

F0r a trans swap I would go down, but that is just because that is what I have done.

Ive got a flat bed trailer for lugging big stuff too.
Did some more testing today and the trans is a little bit less dead than it wanted me to believe yesterday. Regardless I'll keep doing as much digging as I can to find everything I'll need for this and keep you on speed dial so to speak.
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Post by flbjr2036 »

How do this swap work out ?? Looking to install 2005 r motor and standard tranny in 2001 70xc Awd wagon

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We are slow here in upstate.

Mr F, I gave Bruno his picker back ( wow, that needed spell checking ) but bought a stump puller for the garden with SWMBOS budget that might work to pull engines
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