NA intake runners vs turbo
- Sveedy
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I came across a '94 na 850 in the wreckers yard the other day. I've been thinking of doing the na intake/throttle body etc mod but this intake had some sort of linkage system between #3 and #4 runners so I left it. My question is; is there a difference in the size etc of the intake runners between the two intakes ? Or is it strictly a difference in bore openings where the throttle bolts on ?
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IIRC the plenum and runners are the same. The t/b inlet is choked down, maybe for off-boost velocity? I've seen where people have bored the turbo manifold entry. Also, the 93 and some 94 manifolds were double ported with variable volume intake system (VVIS)that would be the linkage you saw, two sets of runners in one, operated based on RPM and Load.
If you're in to it, that motor has the preferred cams for swap into the T-5 motor!
If you're in to it, that motor has the preferred cams for swap into the T-5 motor!
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- Sveedy
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Well then maybe I'll grab them. Question - What is the usable lifespan of the cams ? The car at the wreckers has 160K on it. Looks like catastrophic engine failure due to timing belt breakage.
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That Variable intake manifold has got to be hard to find and I’m guessing NLA from Volvo. Grab the whole thing!
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- erikv11
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But who wants VVIS??? No P80 manifolds are still available from Volvo are they?
Get a 95+ intake manifold, straightforward.
Get a 95+ intake manifold, straightforward.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 201k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 223k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 201k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 223k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
- callahanoffroad
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I have a variable intake manifold it's great when the thing actually works. Otherwise it's got no get up and go in the bottom end
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If the only difference between the two manifolds is the throat opening, then I'll bore out the opening on my turbo manifold. That way I don't have to spend $50 buying a different ( na) one. And I believe I'd still need to drill/tap that one for vacuum lines anyway.
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Yes, one solution is to bore out the turbo manifold.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 201k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 223k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 201k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 223k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
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I don’t have time to sit next to my manifold all night reading “Great Expectations”
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- Sveedy
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Guess I'm a fast reader
With the way I'm planing on doing it, I should be done in a bit over an hour. Most of that time will be spent in set up.
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1999 V70 GLT
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1999 V70 GLT
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