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Have you gotten vaccinated?

Poll ended at 24 Apr 2021, 11:31

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Re: Who's gotten vaccinated?

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How in the world is going to the beach dangerous ? Get in car, drive car, park car, and walk to beach.
This brings up another weird reaction I see; people driving their car, alone, with a mask on ! Really ?
Yes I know the sky is falling. But looking at this chart, it seems that the virus is dropping off even though only one country has more than 50% of its population fully vaccinated. So if we're going to say who is going to be ostracized from the lager portion of society, it would appear that the majority is that group that hasn't been vaccinated. The numbers don't lie. The virus is receding and it's not due to herd immunity. That is a simple fact. The best you can say is that the vaccine is responsible for some of that reduction, but certainly not all. Look at our neighbor to the north. 5% fully vaccinated. 5% !! But their cases are also going down. Last time I checked it's a bit of a colder climate up there as well. So more indoor activities etc.
I'll say it again - it looks more like herd mentality to me, coupled with good old fashion American capitalist greed. Follow the $$$
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Please explain these numbers to me :

U.S vaccine rate - 40% Death rate - 594,000
Canada vaccine rate - 5 % Death rate - 24,000

And I'm wrong for having some level of skepticism ?
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Sveedy wrote: 30 May 2021, 09:03 Please explain these numbers to me :

U.S vaccine rate - 40% Death rate - 594,000
Canada vaccine rate - 5 % Death rate - 24,000
594,000 & 24,000 are not rates. Rates are a quantity measured against another quantity. X per Y.

Canada death rate per 100,000 population 67.71.
United States death rate per 100,000 population 181.06.

Difference is Canada's Universal health care. Many Americans won't go to a doctor or a hospital unless it is unavoidable. Like being near death because, they cannot afford to chance getting stuck with a $1,000,000 hospital bill.
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RickHaleParker wrote: 30 May 2021, 14:46 Canada death rate per 100,000 population 67.71.
United States death rate per 100,000 population 181.06.

Difference is Canada's Universal health care. Many Americans won't go to a doctor or a hospital unless it is unavoidable. Like being near death because, they cannot afford to chance getting stuck with a $1,000,000 hospital bill.
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A couple facts to consider. Canada and US have very nearly the same area (3.78 million Sq. Miles in US and 3.85 Sq. Miles in Canada). Canada has about one tenth of the US population (38 million in Canada and 333 million people in US). Canada's largest city is Toronto with 6.2 million people and US largest is New York with 8.3 million.
If you consider the partial vaccinated people, Canada has 61% and US has 50%. My check found the Canadians do not have many fully vaccinated people as you said.
I would expect National health care would result in better health care for many low income people.
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We're inventive people; 1000 black-owned barbershops and salons to help us increase the reach -- did Pseudocare failed us?
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Sveedy wrote: 30 May 2021, 08:47
This brings up another weird reaction I see; people driving their car, alone, with a mask on ! Really ?
I can explain why I drive in the car alone with a mask on. I stack up errands for each trip. I put on a mask at the first stop and do not take it off until I get home. I have treated the mask as unclean if I have worn it around other people who are not wearing masks. I do not take it on and off to avoid the chance of contamination from handling the mask. When i get home I remove the mask and wash my hands. It makes sense to me.

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