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Dealing with fading clearcoat on 850s

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Dealing with fading clearcoat on 850s

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Now that I've got the car all tuned up and front suspension all straightened out, it seems a perfect time for the clearcoat on my roof and hood to fade away, right?

Roof seems to get worse every day, hood is about to start losing clearcoat. Short of a full repaint, I suppose there is nothing to do but let nature take its course, right? Is there any known product that can stop this process?

I have toyed with the idea of Rhinolining the entire roof since I tend to use the roof rack and a cargo cage to haul things. It would be nice to not have to worry about scratching paint while loading and unloading up there. Hood would not be a good candidate for that treatment I imagine.

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Is the clear coat flaking off or just dull?
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RickHaleParker wrote: 11 Aug 2021, 15:03 Is the clear coat flaking off or just dull?
The coat flaking off is a ubiquitous problem on P80 cars now.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k

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erikv11 wrote: 13 Aug 2021, 10:39 The coat flaking off is a ubiquitous problem on P80 cars now.
I got a 1998 P80 C70 sitting outside. The clear coat is intact and clear.
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2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.

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RickHaleParker wrote: 13 Aug 2021, 10:48
erikv11 wrote: 13 Aug 2021, 10:39 The coat flaking off is a ubiquitous problem on P80 cars now.
I got a 1998 P80 C70 sitting outside. The clear coat is intact and clear.
OMG!!!
N=1 changes EVERYTHING!!!!!

Thanks Rick. For me 2 are peeling (95 and 98) and 2 are not (96 and 98).
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6 :shock: 153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k

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erikv11 wrote: 13 Aug 2021, 11:00 OMG!!!
N=1 changes EVERYTHING!!!!!
Thanks so much Rick.

For me 2 are peeling (95 and 98) and 2 are not (96 and 98).
My bad ... your N=2 is the datum for all :roll:
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2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.

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Post by abscate »

It seems a bit pseudo random

5 p80s , 1 P2

1 P80 with clear coat peel , 1 P80 with a few spots

Rest are all golden

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3 P80s, 1 with peeling clearcoat (burgundy), 2 not (fortunately).
Summer: 1996 855 R
Winter: 1994 855 T5M
Donor: 1995 854 10V

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Post by RickHaleParker »

Tally: 6 not peeling, 5 are peeling.
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2003 S40, B4204T3, 14T twin scroll AW55-50/51SN, Siemens EMS 2000.
2004 S60R, B8444S TF80 AWD. Yamaha V8 conversion
2005 XC90 T6 Executive, B6294T, 4T65 AWD, Bosch Motronic 7.0.

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RickHaleParker wrote: 14 Aug 2021, 13:58 Tally: 6 not peeling, 5 are peeling.
Good to know. Next time my wife says I have too many cars, I will reply that there is a guy who has 11 P80s...
Summer: 1996 855 R
Winter: 1994 855 T5M
Donor: 1995 854 10V

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