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Seeking wheel paint advice

Post by 99TurboBrick »

Hello,

I need to replace 2 rear wheels.

The front wheels are perfos, color code 936, bright silver.

I purchased 2 used perfos for the rears, but they are color code 935, white silver.

So, I'd like to get the the rear ones to match the front.

My options are:

1. Take them to a powder coat shop. Hope that they can match the 936 paint.
2. Paint them myself. Hope that I can find 936 paint, or something closely resembling 936 paint.
3. Paint all 4 wheels so they match. (ugh, don't really want to do this)

I have not been able to find the 936 paint online anywhere at this point.

I'm looking for suggestions on finding matching paint, and powder coating vs. diy painting. Thank you!

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Post by scot850 »

Off the wall suggestion. Run the same colored rims on the same side of the car and save on painting? No one will notice when walking from one side of the car to the other they are different!

There are paint stores out there that can paint match. There was a company recently suggested by a member on MVS that can paint match.

We have a place locally here that claims t do that but I find the results are average and not always a great match.

There is a specialist wheel repair shop locally here that also straightens and repairs rims. They do a good job of paint matching too, but not cheap. Usually $150-200 CDN each wheel. Powder coating is around $100/rim CDN here now. I have had several sets of rims done over the years but with the salt and de-icer on the roads up here the coating lasts about 5 years. I also have a suspicion that the drying and prep process makes the alloy softer.

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Post by MoVolvos »

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My suggestion is to find a generic silver that you like and do all 4 wheels in case you curb or get nicks again. Son helped his friend / our neighbor paint some mustang rims he purchased for his lowered 09 P71 Crown Vic Interceptor. 240 Grit for chips and scratches, lightly sanding till feather / smoothed out. 400 Grit to rough up the old paint and over the 240 Grit sanding marks. Don't have to completely remove the old paint but do need to eliminate chips or flakes.

600 Grit next then wash, dry and finally 99% alcohol to wipe down to removed any grease and film remaining. Use a primer compatible with the paint and it should go pretty quickly.

For a more thorough refinishing.



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Post by abscate »

scot850 wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 14:12 Off the wall suggestion. Run the same colored rims on the same side of the car and save on painting? No one will notice when walking from one side of the car to the other they are different!

There are paint stores out there that can paint match. There was a company recently suggested by a member on MVS that can paint match.

We have a place locally here that claims t do that but I find the results are average and not always a great match.

There is a specialist wheel repair shop locally here that also straightens and repairs rims. They do a good job of paint matching too, but not cheap. Usually $150-200 CDN each wheel. Powder coating is around $100/rim CDN here now. I have had several sets of rims done over the years but with the salt and de-icer on the roads up here the coating lasts about 5 years. I also have a suspicion that the drying and prep process makes the alloy softer.

Neil.
Nice. If you wait until your older and can’t see well this extends to front / back as well, and you can run four mismatched wheels.
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Post by volvolugnut »

abscate wrote: 14 Dec 2021, 05:04
scot850 wrote: 13 Dec 2021, 14:12 Off the wall suggestion. Run the same colored rims on the same side of the car and save on painting? No one will notice when walking from one side of the car to the other they are different!

There are paint stores out there that can paint match. There was a company recently suggested by a member on MVS that can paint match.

We have a place locally here that claims t do that but I find the results are average and not always a great match.

There is a specialist wheel repair shop locally here that also straightens and repairs rims. They do a good job of paint matching too, but not cheap. Usually $150-200 CDN each wheel. Powder coating is around $100/rim CDN here now. I have had several sets of rims done over the years but with the salt and de-icer on the roads up here the coating lasts about 5 years. I also have a suspicion that the drying and prep process makes the alloy softer.

Neil.
Nice. If you wait until your older and can’t see well this extends to front / back as well, and you can run four mismatched wheels.
As you get even older, you don't care what the wheels look like as long as they roll (VOLVO).
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Post by FireFox31 »

I'd vote for a good powder coating. Around me, it costs $100 per wheel for a low quality powder coat job (base coat that's in stock, no clear coat). One of my Mercedes wheels must have been poorly refinished because it eventually flaked badly. All of my original wheels have held up nicely, so I encourage getting the most original, high quality finish possible.

Find a powder coating shop which will let you choose a color from Prismatic Powders. They have countless colors and might mail you samples of a few colors so you can compare them against the good wheels. The powder coating shop should have nasty chemicals to strip the wheel, sand blast out any imperfections, powder coat with the color, then clear coat the top. Then like Neil said, put the stock wheels on one side and the coated ones on the other.

Or just go nuts and get all four wheels powder coated in some awesome color. Because why not when you're already doing two.
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Post by Oro »

I would use the paint pictured below (in fact, I am/have!).

Put it on over Rustoleum self-etching primer and the color will be better and with fewer coats. Then clear coat with the pictured cc.

The color is close enough the bright silver you cannot tell front-to-back. The 2nd picture is a wheel where I had to refinish the center cap. Wheel is factory color (it is Ford bright silver, but the same as Volvo). The cap is the paint above and you can't tell any difference. In fact I have a set of four Perfos I am about to refinish with that as they are going to take snows for the car pictured below. These paints are widely available and not premium prices.

The "putting them on opposite sides" is really not a bad idea. No one would notice, except you. Personally it would bug me but I'm pickier than average about little details like that in my house, car, etc. Another point in favor of it, is note that the Perfo wheels themselves are directional - the bladed angle of the spoke is always only one direction. So they are then pointing different directions when on the left vs. right at all times. But no one ever notices or complains about that.

The downside to that is then you can only ever do a same-side tire rotation, vs. the preferred "forward cross." So, it's really up to your appetite for work and tolerance for a little variation side-to-side.



Use some self-etching primer under these and you'll be happy I think:
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The wheel is factory paint, the center cap is the primer/rustoleum silver wheel/rustoleum clear coat:
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Post by foggydogg »

Eastwood sells a couple wheel paint colors in rattle cans
https://www.eastwood.com/ew-rally-wheel ... gle&wv=3.1

Pro body shops all use Wurth, matches M/B and Beemers pretty good.

https://www.wurthusa.com/Chemical-Produ ... 0893339108
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Post by FireFox31 »

Oro wrote: 14 Dec 2021, 15:20 the Perfo wheels themselves are directional - the bladed angle of the spoke is always only one direction. So they are then pointing different directions when on the left vs. right at all times. But no one ever notices or complains about that.
I always notice. Ted Lasso season 1 features a powder blue 850 (with no grey horizontal body trim) with Columba wheels. Its first appearance shows the passenger side, revealing that all four of its wheels have the same direction blades. Come on, Hollywood, at least pay for mirrored pairs of Columbas. I did.
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Post by abscate »

I’m not sure which is scarier…mismatched wheels or the existence of the IMCDB.org database….

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