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Re: Which brand of cars has better ride quality than Volvo, if any?

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I buy the stickiest snow tires.

I have a friend with a mid-60s Lotus 7. It has quite a ride...and no windows... and no doors....and no top....and a tailpipe next to your ear...
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No one wants to ride like a Rolls Royce, without buying a rolls royce? :D

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Btw, on-topic, has anyone researched replacing some of the original engine mounts with active engine mounts from other car brands? The most logical choice is the engine pad aka the right passenger engine mounts on P2. It's closer to the pulley of the crankshaft and theoretically closer to the source of vibrations, although NVH studies are taught in 4th year of Engineering in the US and I have no such background.

All engines have different first,second order vibrations as well as cylinder firing vibrations and from what I've read so far, the location of the mount + it's shore rating and shape define how it handles vibrations. Active hydraulic mounts should be the best, of course and was really hoping if I could find a way to install them in our cars.

I was advised to use a load cell to determine which of our engine mounts takes the brunt of the weight. That engine mount which sees the greatest force is the one which transfers the most vibrations. I am unsure if I can do this test.

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abscate wrote: 28 Nov 2022, 22:39
kallekula wrote: 28 Nov 2022, 21:00 Bentley, Rolls Royce etc etc etc
My neighbor prefers my S70....
The best part of a Rolls is they never break.

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dikidera wrote: 30 Nov 2022, 00:22 Btw, on-topic, has anyone researched replacing some of the original engine mounts with active engine mounts from other car brands? The most logical choice is the engine pad aka the right passenger engine mounts on P2. It's closer to the pulley of the crankshaft and theoretically closer to the source of vibrations,[background=] although NVH studies are taught in 4th year of Engineering in the US and I have no such background.

All engines have different first,second order vibrations as well as cylinder firing vibrations and from what I've read so far, the location of the mount + it's shore rating and shape define how it handles vibrations. Active hydraulic mounts should be the best, of course and was really hoping if I could find a way to install them in our cars.

I was advised to use a load cell to determine which of our engine mounts takes the brunt of the weight. That engine mount which sees the greatest force is the one which transfers the most vibrations. I am unsure if I can do this test.
I attended a 4th year engineering level vibrations class and still have no such knowledge!

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dikidera wrote: 29 Nov 2022, 06:16 So for the sake of ride quality, you have to give up speed? Well, my S60 is for now only 140hp(I will unlock it to the full 170hp or more depending on the tune), but either way it can barely reach 200km/h so for me, any speed rating around there is good enough.

As for Noico, I don't think they are good for the money. Resonix sell some new and highly praised products, but they ship from the US and VAT and customs will raise the price by probably over 20% in Europe and they are already expensive, but the owner of the company has an S60 as well so he knows his Volvos. Dynamat feel overhyped. Then there is Second Skin Damplifier. I am still conflicted with which brand to go.

Finally I have to find glazed windows and replace the originals with these, as they are said to be thicker. Having worked on cars...it's difficult as the plastic retainer clips holding the window to the motorized frame become brittle and break easily. Some brands use a 10mm bolt which is much better But anything for Noise and Wind noise reduction.
If I remember correct they are good for speeds up to 200km/h. My bimmer is faster than that but how often do you drive that fast? No Autobahns with free speed zones here in California.
I have wanted to drive out to one of those salt flats to see how fast it will go though. For that I would never have the Bridgestones mounted on the car. Jessi Combs died out in the desert trying to break the land speed record. Not because of a tire blowout but anyway. Imagine driving somewhere around 250km/h and one of the front tires blow up.

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Not often enough, but the mere knowledge that you can reach 200+, my cousin did 300km/h to test out his RS3. However at these kinds speeds, the tire definitely needs to be able to not deform.

I've noticed Americans are very reserved when it comes to speeds. The mere mention of anything over 60 yielded comments to the tune of "you shouldn't be driving that fast". I always thought it was odd because every other guy would say the same thing.
But in some countries like Germany, 100km/h is considered slow I'm sure. And in my country we regularly drive 140km/h+, and those that can do 160km/h as an average. And even then we oftentimes have someone zoom past us at 200+.

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With the traffic we have here in CA it’s hard to reach any “high” speeds on a freeway not having cracks/ potholes.
I think people don’t like speeding for obvious reasons but also if one single little crash occurs, the freeway turns into a fkn parking lot. There are a lot of people that have to commute for long distances and already spend hours in their cars everyday.

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Over here in the large square states I regularly see soccer moms in big suvs going 90 mph. I-90, I-15. I'm not sure American's driving skills are up to the level that new smooth quiet cars can do. I was recently on I-80 across nebraska and Wyoming and it was clogged with trucks, trailers, U Hauls.....but was still humming along at 70, 75.
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