Strange door locking response Topic is solved

[volvolugnut]

I am stumped by a strange door locking response on 2001 V70.
I recently had the drivers door card off to fix the detached outside opening handle rod. I disconnected all of the electrical connections during this process. I tried to get the two push/pull rods back in the clips at the same length.
Everything now works again except when I use the inside button (on the armrest) to unlock all doors, the drivers door unlocks and immediately locks again. If I pull up the manual lock knob on the driver door, it stays up. If I unlock from the outside using the key, all doors unlock, the driver door knob goes up, and then immediately the drivers door relocks. To open the drivers door, I have to unlock with the key and then immediately lift the door handle and open the door.
Any ideas?
volvolugnut

[vtl]

Disconnect the battery for 5 minutes?

[jonesg]

I am stumped by a strange door locking response on 2001 V70.
I recently had the drivers door card off to fix the detached outside opening handle rod. I disconnected all of the electrical connections during this process. I tried to get the two push/pull rods back in the clips at the same length.
Everything now works again except when I use the inside button (on the armrest) to unlock all doors, the drivers door unlocks and immediately locks again. If I pull up the manual lock knob on the driver door, it stays up. If I unlock from the outside using the key, all doors unlock, the driver door knob goes up, and then immediately the drivers door relocks. To open the drivers door, I have to unlock with the key and then immediately lift the door handle and open the door.
Any ideas?
volvolugnut

its usually the window that loses calibration, you must have moved something in the door lock sequence before plugging it back in again.
Maybe a soft reboot of the system will do the trick.

[firstv70volvo]

I am stumped by a strange door locking response on 2001 V70.
I recently had the drivers door card off to fix the detached outside opening handle rod. I disconnected all of the electrical connections during this process. I tried to get the two push/pull rods back in the clips at the same length.
Everything now works again except when I use the inside button (on the armrest) to unlock all doors, the drivers door unlocks and immediately locks again. If I pull up the manual lock knob on the driver door, it stays up. If I unlock from the outside using the key, all doors unlock, the driver door knob goes up, and then immediately the drivers door relocks. To open the drivers door, I have to unlock with the key and then immediately lift the door handle and open the door.
Any ideas?
volvolugnut

Maybe the rod from the outside key lock isn't adjusted just right. After the key is turned to unlock the doors when it returns to the center position maybe it's far enough out of adjustment it thinks the key is turned far enough in the other direction to lock the doors. Just speculating.

[volvolugnut]

Maybe the rod from the outside key lock isn't adjusted just right. After the key is turned to unlock the doors when it returns to the center position maybe it's far enough out of adjustment it thinks the key is turned far enough in the other direction to lock the doors. Just speculating.

Anyone know how to properly position the rod for the knob?

volvolugnut

[firstv70volvo]

Maybe the rod from the outside key lock isn't adjusted just right. After the key is turned to unlock the doors when it returns to the center position maybe it's far enough out of adjustment it thinks the key is turned far enough in the other direction to lock the doors. Just speculating.

Anyone know how to properly position the rod for the knob?

volvolugnut

I don't know if this will help or not, not even sure if this is the problem but take a look at the linkage closest (of bottom two levers) to you in the locked and unlocked position. I would expect the rod should be snapped into a mid position between these two lock/unlociked positions. Not sure if you can observe the position with the key locked turned one way and the other.

There's two levers there with pushrod clip connection, I believe the one further away is the rod from the door handle to the door lock assembly and the closer one is the key lock rod to door lock assembly.

Locked

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Unlocked

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[jonesg]

don't start adjusting anything before trying a disconnect and soft reboot of the computer.

Disconnect battery for a while to let it bleed off surface v.
Put the key in position II, reconnect the battery.

[firstv70volvo]

I am stumped by a strange door locking response on 2001 V70.
I recently had the drivers door card off to fix the detached outside opening handle rod. I disconnected all of the electrical connections during this process. I tried to get the two push/pull rods back in the clips at the same length.
Everything now works again except when I use the inside button (on the armrest) to unlock all doors, the drivers door unlocks and immediately locks again. If I pull up the manual lock knob on the driver door, it stays up. If I unlock from the outside using the key, all doors unlock, the driver door knob goes up, and then immediately the drivers door relocks. To open the drivers door, I have to unlock with the key and then immediately lift the door handle and open the door.
Any ideas?
volvolugnut

I'd like you to check a couple of things when using the key. Using the key in the door lock check to see if the key rotation is close to the same in both directions, does the key rotate the same amount in the counter-clockwise direction as compared to the clockwise direction. If the rod was adjusted incorrectly there might be a difference in how far the key rotates in one direction vs. the other.
A second thing to try is when you unlock the door with the key try to keep the key from rotating back to the center, vertical position when the door unlocks, when the door unlocks let the key rotate back just a little and then hold the key in this position for a moment to see if the door locks again when it shouldn't. Doing these two things may help determine if it is the rod isn't adjusted correctly and you don't have to take the door panel off.
When I've replaced the door lock assembly, I've just pressed the two rods into the blue clips without knowing the original positions and everything has worked okay but I may just have gotten lucky.

[volvolugnut]

I am stumped by a strange door locking response on 2001 V70.
I recently had the drivers door card off to fix the detached outside opening handle rod. I disconnected all of the electrical connections during this process. I tried to get the two push/pull rods back in the clips at the same length.
Everything now works again except when I use the inside button (on the armrest) to unlock all doors, the drivers door unlocks and immediately locks again. If I pull up the manual lock knob on the driver door, it stays up. If I unlock from the outside using the key, all doors unlock, the driver door knob goes up, and then immediately the drivers door relocks. To open the drivers door, I have to unlock with the key and then immediately lift the door handle and open the door.
Any ideas?
volvolugnut

I'd like you to check a couple of things when using the key. Using the key in the door lock check to see if the key rotation is close to the same in both directions, does the key rotate the same amount in the counter-clockwise direction as compared to the clockwise direction. If the rod was adjusted incorrectly there might be a difference in how far the key rotates in one direction vs. the other.
A second thing to try is when you unlock the door with the key try to keep the key from rotating back to the center, vertical position when the door unlocks, when the door unlocks let the key rotate back just a little and then hold the key in this position for a moment to see if the door locks again when it shouldn't. Doing these two things may help determine if it is the rod isn't adjusted correctly and you don't have to take the door panel off.
When I've replaced the door lock assembly, I've just pressed the two rods into the blue clips without knowing the original positions and everything has worked okay but I may just have gotten lucky.

I tried your suggestions.
When I turn the key, it appears to turn more CCW (unlock) than CW (lock). It may turn 15 degrees more CCW.

I tried turn and hold of the key when unlocking. As long as I hold the key full CCW, the door stays unlocked. If I hold CCW at the stop for several seconds, the door will not relock. I thought the turn and hold may have fixed the issue, but when I locked again and then tried the quick unlock, the door relocked. I then tried the arm rest button for lock/unlock and the driver door relocks while the other doors stay unlocked.

I have not tried the battery disconnect yet.

volvolugnut

[firstv70volvo]

I am stumped by a strange door locking response on 2001 V70.
I recently had the drivers door card off to fix the detached outside opening handle rod. I disconnected all of the electrical connections during this process. I tried to get the two push/pull rods back in the clips at the same length.
Everything now works again except when I use the inside button (on the armrest) to unlock all doors, the drivers door unlocks and immediately locks again. If I pull up the manual lock knob on the driver door, it stays up. If I unlock from the outside using the key, all doors unlock, the driver door knob goes up, and then immediately the drivers door relocks. To open the drivers door, I have to unlock with the key and then immediately lift the door handle and open the door.
Any ideas?
volvolugnut

I'd like you to check a couple of things when using the key. Using the key in the door lock check to see if the key rotation is close to the same in both directions, does the key rotate the same amount in the counter-clockwise direction as compared to the clockwise direction. If the rod was adjusted incorrectly there might be a difference in how far the key rotates in one direction vs. the other.
A second thing to try is when you unlock the door with the key try to keep the key from rotating back to the center, vertical position when the door unlocks, when the door unlocks let the key rotate back just a little and then hold the key in this position for a moment to see if the door locks again when it shouldn't. Doing these two things may help determine if it is the rod isn't adjusted correctly and you don't have to take the door panel off.
When I've replaced the door lock assembly, I've just pressed the two rods into the blue clips without knowing the original positions and everything has worked okay but I may just have gotten lucky.

I tried your suggestions.
When I turn the key, it appears to turn more CCW (unlock) than CW (lock). It may turn 15 degrees more CCW.

I tried turn and hold of the key when unlocking. As long as I hold the key full CCW, the door stays unlocked. If I hold CCW at the stop for several seconds, the door will not relock. I thought the turn and hold may have fixed the issue, but when I locked again and then tried the quick unlock, the door relocked. I then tried the arm rest button for lock/unlock and the driver door relocks while the other doors stay unlocked.

I have not tried the battery disconnect yet.

volvolugnut

Based on the results I think the pushrod needs to be adjusted. You can try the battery disconnect but I don't think this will help you, easy enough to give it a try though.

Adding a photo of the lock/unlock lever in the midpoint position. I think this is the best position for the lever when the operation rod from the key lock cylinder is press into the lever clip. The key lock cylinder should be in a neutral position because it's spring loaded so I would think the lever should also be in a mid-point position when the key cylinder is the neutral position. The area I circled is an opening with a diamond shape lined up when the lever is at the midpoint.

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