Wife was driving it slowly in town, suddenly the engine got “rough almost like when the valve burned in the 850.” Finished driving it the two blocks to home and it’s been parked since, which has been a few days, until today when I looked at it.
When I start it up the engine clacks randomly or rhythmically or not at all, as in the video. When rhythmic it goes up and down with rpm’s. Sounds like coming from the top end, top and toward the passenger side. Oil level is fine. Timing path appears fine. After a few startups it threw a cylinder 3 misfire code, nothing else so far.
What next, any suggestions? Unplug the VVT solenoids see if that affects it?
Likely a Volvo mechanic could diagnose this in a few seconds, maybe I’ll take it by the Indy if driving it isn’t deemed idiotic.
07 XC70 marble in the engine
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07 XC70 marble in the engine
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It doesn’t sound clingy enough for expensive bottom end stuff. Stethoscope it or maybe take off serp belt.
I would drive that for 5-10 miles at 30 mph after a burnt offering to the Norse Gods
I would drive that for 5-10 miles at 30 mph after a burnt offering to the Norse Gods
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Went back to check with stethoscope and a mister for the serp belt. But it Wouldn’t make the noise, just had a rough idle. So I went down the line and pulled each injector. Every one of them affected idle except for number three. So number three is not firing. Pull number three plug, the electrode gap is smashed and the prong shows some scarring from getting hit. Here’s the plug.
Checked compression on 1-2-3 got 125-130-55. Checked each cylinder twice those are averages.
Do I stop now or try to do more troubleshooting? Seems the bottom end is in trouble given that plug damage? I could see then top of the piston in the plug hole, it looked fine there of course. Borescope time maybe; I don’t have one.
Do I stop now or try to do more troubleshooting? Seems the bottom end is in trouble given that plug damage? I could see then top of the piston in the plug hole, it looked fine there of course. Borescope time maybe; I don’t have one.
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'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
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She has dropped a valve and has some bits in the cylinder.
Off with her head!!!
Off with her head!!!
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Sigh. I do always preach that an engine swap is a better move than head work ...
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
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Depends on condition of engine and accessories. Labor wise , about the same
Cylinder head job requires hood local shop
Erik , bottom end is fine because she drives like an adult and Babied it home.
Cylinder head job requires hood local shop
Erik , bottom end is fine because she drives like an adult and Babied it home.
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I was referring to possible piston damage from whatever smashed the plug, that's all.
I do have a good local shop. Been 10 years since they did a head for me though.
I do have a good local shop. Been 10 years since they did a head for me though.
'95 854 T-5R, Motronic 4.4, 185k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
153k
gone: '96 NA 850 210k, '98 NA V70 182k, '98 S70 NA 225k, '96 855 NA 169k
'98 V70, T5 tune-injectors-turbo, LPT engine, 304k, daily driver
'06 S60 R, 197k
'07 XC70, black, 205k
'07 XC70, willow green, 212k
'99 Camry V6
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You will know when it opens up. But it’s it’s got 55 psi it isn’t catastrophic
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