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1996 850 2.0 GLT won't start, please help

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1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

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danielb314
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Year and Model: 1996
Location: Budapest

1996 850 2.0 GLT won't start, please help

Post by danielb314 »

Hello all! After sitting for a few days, my car refused to start. Cranks, seems like it wants to start but then dies almost immediately. I checked all the sensor signals right to the ecu connector, I have spark, I have fuel pressure, but the motronic 4.3 is not activating the injectors.

My suspicion was the immo 2 box being unhappy, because if I load an older '94 2.0T program into the motronic eprom, the injectors are firing and the car starts up. However I have also replaced the immo box now and the chip in the key, but the car still won't start up (at least with the original firmware).

What am I missing, what could I try next? Please help, I'm about to set this beautiful white brick on fire..

5rivers
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Post by 5rivers »

Hey there!
In this forum there are lots of similar posts, many of which say start checking your relays and sensors. I would recommend reading the posts. And check out the repair database as well, there is a "no-start" page that might help. In your case, the fuel relay, cam sensor, rotor, and fuses would be top of my list.
I am not familiar with anything ECU related, sorry!
Keep posting your progress and those with much more experience than I will chime in!
5rivers
1998 V70 M56, silver/grey, has tranny issues, #?# owner, 330,xxx miles, a handy parts car
1998 V70 AT, nautical blue, 2nd owner, 260,000 miles, Sold
1998 V70 AT, T5, forest green, 3rd owner, 172,300 miles, Mimas 16" rims

danielb314
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Post by danielb314 »

Hey 5rivers, thanks for the reply! I have read a lot of no-start posts, and checked and ruled out the relays and sensors by now.

At the moment I am able to start the car with a different ECU program that does not have immo check, the biggest issue is that it seems to be a manual ecu program my automatic transmission shifts are very rough..

If anyone happens to have a US or pre-immo ('95?) 2.0 GLT 132KW .bin file, that would be super helpful! :)

danielb314
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Year and Model: 1996
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Post by danielb314 »

Ok I managed to solve it! Seems like the automatic transmission is handled inside the ECU but not within the eeprom program, so I uploaded the older (non-immo) program to my own ECU (I've been using a spare one previously, from a manual car), and lo and behold the car starts up and shifts perfectly. This issue was the biggest headache my 850 caused so far.. 🤦‍♂️

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Post by jmartin919 »

Why not replace the immobilizer, or am I missing something?
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misha
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Post by misha »

Because EU market '96 have chipped keys.
'97 850 2.5 20v / fully equipped / Motronic 4.4 from the factory / upgraded with S,V,C,XC70 instrument cluster / polar white wagon
History of Volvos in the family:
'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
'78 244 DL
'78 244 DL
'79 244 GLE
'85 340 GLS

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Post by 5rivers »

I'm glad you figured out a solution to your problem!!! I still have lots to learn about ECU's...
5rivers
1998 V70 M56, silver/grey, has tranny issues, #?# owner, 330,xxx miles, a handy parts car
1998 V70 AT, nautical blue, 2nd owner, 260,000 miles, Sold
1998 V70 AT, T5, forest green, 3rd owner, 172,300 miles, Mimas 16" rims

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Post by misha »

danielb314 wrote: 30 Aug 2023, 10:18 ...2.0 GLT 132KW...
In '96?
...and '94 2.0 T?

Those engines didn't existed for 850.

Engine is swapped from s,v70(B5204T2).
'97 850 2.5 20v / fully equipped / Motronic 4.4 from the factory / upgraded with S,V,C,XC70 instrument cluster / polar white wagon
History of Volvos in the family:
'71 144 S
'73 144 De Luxe
'78 244 DL
'78 244 DL
'79 244 GLE
'85 340 GLS

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