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1998 V70XC burning oil and crank no start

Help, Advice and DIY Tutorials on Volvo's P80 platform cars -- Volvo's 1990s "bread and butter" cars -- powered by the ubiquitous and durable Volvo inline 5-cylinder engine.

1992 - 1997 850, including 850 R, 850 T-5R, 850 T-5, 850 GLT
1997 - 2000 S70, S70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70, V70 AWD
1997 - 2000 V70-XC
1997 - 2004 C70

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Re: 1998 V70XC burning oil and crank no start

Post by abscate »

When I did my three axle drops 😀😀😀 I put a 4x4 under the whole back of the car on three jackstands.

I cribbed up with 4x4 safeties as a backup , you can keep those under the axle until you are ready to drop, then move them.

Don’t be under the car at all when you are breaking it free.
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Post by scot850 »

:lol: :lol:

I hear you, it would be embarrassing to do something like that! Always better to ask before than after!

Good Luck!

Neil.
2006 V70 2.5T AWD Polestar tune
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
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Post by jsrnsis »

I've read up on the method of lowering the tank without removing the whole subframe. I understand I need to remove the rear exhaust, and lower the viscous coupling. Is there anything else attached to the fuel tank that would break when the front of the tank gets lowered, anything attached to the body? Does the filler neck have enough flex? I think this should give sufficient room to remove the leaking fuel line, as someone else did this job by cutting the hole behind the seats and not lowering the tank at all.
1998 V70XC black 183xxx
2014 S80 T6 AWD 110xxx
1998 V70XC nautic blue 155xxx
1997 850 GLT 123xxx
2024 Honda CRF110F
Previous Volvos:
1997 850 GLT 239,577
1998 V70 NA silver 202,510
1994 850 NA gray 125,000
1998 V70 NA white 163xxx

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Post by jsrnsis »

I finally got something accomplished on this car.
Removing the tank straps and the passenger side trailing arm I was able to get the tank down far enough to get a tool in there to manipulate the disconnect. Tool was just a clothes hanger bent into shape.
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The trailing arm comes down after removing the jacking point, I put a jack under the trailing arm so I was able to lower it slowly after removing the 18mm bolt in the circular jacking point, once the trailing arm bracket was free of the jack point flange, I just put the 18mm bolt back in to hold it in place so I wasn't putting strain on the brake line that's clipped in to the circular jack pad.
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1998 V70XC black 183xxx
2014 S80 T6 AWD 110xxx
1998 V70XC nautic blue 155xxx
1997 850 GLT 123xxx
2024 Honda CRF110F
Previous Volvos:
1997 850 GLT 239,577
1998 V70 NA silver 202,510
1994 850 NA gray 125,000
1998 V70 NA white 163xxx

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Post by abscate »

Well done!
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Post by jsrnsis »

I decided I might as well remove the viscous coupling and drop the tank even further to make my life easier. I removed the 6 bolts from the driveshaft to VC flange, and then proceeded to snap off the second bolt holding the center driveshaft bearing to the bracket.
After a deluge of choice words and threatening the car with scrapping, I went to split the exhaust at the center flare fitting to be able to remove that support bracket. Turns out the flare fitting was smothered in exhaust putty and pretty much glued together, so out came the sawzall. With the exhaust split, I was able to remove the bracket, and supported the catalytic converter pipe and center of the driveshaft with a bucket.
It wasn't as easy to pop the front CV joint out of the angle gear flange as my other v70xc I recently did that job on, but I was able to use a harbor freight locking chain wrench (combo of a strap wrench and vice grips) and turn the driveshaft while the car was in park, and break the CV housing free of the flange. From there I was able to pry the joint apart with minimal effort.
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So this is where I'm at now.......
1998 V70XC black 183xxx
2014 S80 T6 AWD 110xxx
1998 V70XC nautic blue 155xxx
1997 850 GLT 123xxx
2024 Honda CRF110F
Previous Volvos:
1997 850 GLT 239,577
1998 V70 NA silver 202,510
1994 850 NA gray 125,000
1998 V70 NA white 163xxx

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Long interlude after catching COVID...
1998 V70XC black 183xxx
2014 S80 T6 AWD 110xxx
1998 V70XC nautic blue 155xxx
1997 850 GLT 123xxx
2024 Honda CRF110F
Previous Volvos:
1997 850 GLT 239,577
1998 V70 NA silver 202,510
1994 850 NA gray 125,000
1998 V70 NA white 163xxx

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Post by scot850 »

That is unfortunate. It is out there doing the rounds again. My wife and son are just over it. Get well soon!

Neil.
2006 V70 2.5T AWD Polestar tune
2000 V70 R - still being an endless PITA
2006 XC70 - Our son now has this and still parked in our garage
2003 Toyota 4Runner V8 Limited
2015 Kia Sportage EX-L - Sold
1993 850 GLT -Sold
1998 V70 XC - Sold
1997 Volvo 850 SE NA - Went to niece in California - Sold
2000 V70 SE NA - Sold

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Post by abscate »

Hope you are well again!

Remember to store that viscous coupling on its rear side, vertically. This keeps the viscous part, viscous
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Post by jsrnsis »

Yeah it's really going around, I'm on day 7 and I still feel like garbage.
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We got this awful fuel line out, only because it broke in half. I don't know who decided painted steel was ok, but aluminum fuel lines would have probably prevented a lot of early deaths for P80 AWDs.
I didn't even end up getting the viscous coupler down, I have no idea how I'd remove this upper flange bolt. Picture got flipped but you can just see it poking out from behind the aluminum torque tube.
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It seems the re-installation will be just as tedious as the removal.
1998 V70XC black 183xxx
2014 S80 T6 AWD 110xxx
1998 V70XC nautic blue 155xxx
1997 850 GLT 123xxx
2024 Honda CRF110F
Previous Volvos:
1997 850 GLT 239,577
1998 V70 NA silver 202,510
1994 850 NA gray 125,000
1998 V70 NA white 163xxx

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